Trump says Justice Brett Kavanaugh should ‘start suing people’ after new report of sexual misconduct

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  1. Migrunt

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    As alleged in the NYTimes: "A classmate, Max Stier, said he saw Kavanaugh with his pants down at the party, where friends pushed Kavanaugh’s penis into the young woman’s hand."

    Refuting or confirming such a charge is in the public interest. Truth is good.
     
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    Oh Max Stiener who has had a running feud with Kavenaugh for years who provides no corroboration and now refuses to talk about it.....
    You said additional charges this is an old debunked allegation that was investigated.
     
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    Oh my god, that's unheard of. I can't imagine the depravity of college kids doing such a thing. What's this world coming to?
     
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    What's stopping the Dems from further investigation of any and all of this? You know, like they promised they were going to do a year ago?

    Before this happened.

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    Why is the FBI required? There are other ways and means of investigation. How much effort have the Dems put into "getting to the truth" over the last year?
     
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    I know nothing of your "running feud with Kavanaugh" nor why Stier's account now becoming public would fit with such an old antipathy.

    He has neither confirmed not denied it.

    The fact is that his allegation is now public, and a serious attempt to ascertain its accuracy or its falsity is entirely appropriate.

    The truth is important for all concerned, inconvenient as it may be for one side or another.
     
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    I heard that Kavanaugh probably had premarital sex with another college student, a male. Not that there's anything wrong with that.....unless it's a nominee to the Supreme Court that isn't a flaming leftist...…..
     
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    The pertinent matter does not involve the propensity of drunken youth for gross incivilities.

    Were "Kegs" to honestly bray, "Yep! That was me! Them wuz wild and crazy times back then!" your blithe dismissal would be an option for all.

    The truth matters.
     
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    He refuses to talk about it and provided nothing to back it up. He was one on Clinton's impeachment attornies while Kavenaugh was a member of the ICO.
     
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    I’d sue, big time.
     
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    Before the inevitable, mindless dung-flinging at Stier intensifies to Stage 5, his alleged account needs to be dispassionately assessed.

    Jennifer Rubin, a self-identified "conservative blogger" at The Washington Post wrote:

    [​IMG]Jennifer Rubin
    ✔@JRubinBlogger

    I know Max Stier. He is scrupulously honest and nonpartisan.
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    "I've known Max Stier...for many years," Mieke Eoyang, the vice president of center-left think tank Third Way National Security weighed in. "He's been dedicated to integrity, ethics and effectiveness in government service and runs a non-profit that urges [the] same."

    "That an allegation came from him should never have been taken lightly,"
    Eoyang said.


    [​IMG]Glenn Kirschner
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    And these are absolutely credible allegations. I know Max Stier, one of the witnesses named in the NYT article. There is no doubt in my mind he’s telling the truth about what he witnessed Kavanaugh do. Congress needs to investigate. https://twitter.com/joycewhitevance/status/1173043978800893952 …

    Joyce Alene
    ✔@JoyceWhiteVance


    There must be a full Congressional investigation to determine whether someone, and if so who, gave orders that kept the FBI from investigating credible allegations & speaking to witnesses who reached out to them. We were told this was a full investigation. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/14/sunday-review/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-yale.html
    https://www.newsweek.com/max-stier-brett-kavanaugh-allegations-yale-university-1459373
     
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    No evidence. Nothing. Just women without even friends to back up their stories. Make this atheist wish there were a hell to send these lying, perjuring, b(the word my mother taught never to say)s to.

    Keep it up, and I won’t have to hold my nose to vote—Trump will be re-elected by independents disgusted with these filthy fraudulent fabrications and dirty tacky tactics.
     
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    Stier has long worked "on both sides of the aisle," with the non-profit CEO's partnership having even worked with both the Clinton and Trump campaigns in the lead-up to the 2016 presidential election. https://www.newsweek.com/max-stier-brett-kavanaugh-allegations-yale-university-1459373

    The inevitable ploy to cast him as having a political preference one way or another does not negate his credibility.

    Jennifer Rubin, a self-identified "conservative blogger" at The Washington Post wrote:

    [​IMG]Jennifer Rubin
    ✔@JRubinBlogger

    I know Max Stier. He is scrupulously honest and nonpartisan.
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    If he refuses to expand upon his alleged account, then the matter will no longer be of public import.

    It is essential that he be questioned.
     
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    To say he's "nonpartisan" is just laughable.

    This is why nobody takes your seriously, Bumpo.
     
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    No, the truth doesn't matter. The truth is Ford couldn't name a time or place the alleged assault occurred and not one witness. Fail.
     
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    These allegations have no proof.
    I agree with Trump - Kavanaugh should start suing for libel.
    Those two journalists used him to fuel their book sale. Despicable act. He should sue and prevent them from enjoying the profits.
     
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    Jennifer Rubin the disguised left wing journalist. He refuses to even comment on his allegation publicly. Why, because he might get sued. He was questioned by the Senate committee. He has nothing to back up his claims and the person he claims was attacked denies it.
     
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    The truth via WaPo.

    "The political fallout from the new allegation suggested the divisions surrounding Kavanaugh’s nomination last year will continue to be felt in the 2020 campaign. Republicans denounced the Times report as an effort by the media to smear Kavanaugh. Some seized on the fact that the story — labeled as a news analysis — did not mention that, according to the book, the woman involved in the alleged incident has told friends she does not recall it."

    https://beta.washingtonpost.com/nat...e9-ac63-3016711543fe_story.html?noredirect=on

    If something is idiotic and a lie does it change into a butterfly if you keep posting it?
     
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    Courtesy a Yahoo comment

    1982 - Something may or may not have happened with another 2 (or 4) teenagers at a party, she cannot remember who threw the party, where the party was held, who she was with or how she got home. She was drinking and said nothing to anyone.
    1983,
    1984,
    1985,
    1986,
    1987,
    1988,
    1989,
    1990,
    1991,
    1992,
    1993,
    1994,
    1995,
    1996,
    1997,
    1998,
    1999,
    2000,
    2001,
    2002... She said nothing.
    July 25, 2003: President George W. Bush nominated Kavanaugh to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C Circuit... She said nothing.
    2004,
    2005... She said nothing.
    May 11, 2006: The United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary recommended confirmation. Kavanaugh subsequently confirmed by the United States Senate... She said nothing.
    June 1, 2006: Kavanaugh sworn in by Justice Anthony Kennedy... She said nothing.
    2007,
    2008,
    2009,
    2010,
    2011... She said nothing.
    2012... In a couples therapy session she claims to remember 'something' happened in the 1980's, but is not sure of the year or her age and doesn't name Kavanaugh, she later claims she did but won't release her therapist notes which would prove her story and she still says nothing to authorities.
    2013,
    2014,
    2015,
    2016,
    2017 - becomes an anti-trump activist.
    2018 - now 36 years later, with Kavanaugh's SCOTUS confirmation looming, she pens an anonymous letter with grave accusations against Kavanaugh regarding foggy circumstance that occurred while they were both minors, then reveals herself after being outed by someone working for Sen Feinstein and DEMANDS an FBI investigation before testifying to her incredible allegation, she has zero proof and at no time can anyone verify her story, on the contrary the people she claimed were there, including someone she called a "very close friend" have all submitted written affidavits stating "no we weren't", her close friend even states "I have never met Brett Kavanaugh and have never been to a party where he was present" and between the time she writes her letter and her testimony, she changes or makes corrections to her original story multiple times.
    https://news.yahoo.com/kamala-harri...-154047843.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=2_08

    And why exactly do you believe her and are willing to say that the weight of the evidence is that Kavanaugh assaulted her?
     
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    Regardless of whether that is correct, Stier's alleged statement demands that he be questioned.

    Perhaps, it was falsely reported, but it should not be summarily suppressed without a conscientious effort to ascertain the truth.
     
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    Bull. The truth is already out there and you know it in your heart but it's just another day in the tantrum being thrown by the left because they lost in 2016.
     
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    You can pretend that you are privy to whatever truth comports with your agenda.

    I recognize that it needs to be ascertained, regardless of whose agenda it serves.
     
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    Beliefs are not facts or evidence, they’re self—delusions.
     
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    bull
     
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    Same thing with Anita Hill. She said nothing until Clarance Thomas was nominated to the Supreme Court. The Democrat party is a smear machine and no longer works for the American people, but for a small sector of leftist miscreants.
     

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