Hamas fires rockets at Israel

I spent six weeks in the Holy Lands when Jordan controlled the West bank and East Jerusalem and Egypt controlled Gaza. It was nice. HAMAS wasn't born until the mid 1980s. Nope its not hatred of Jews. Jews lived all over the Arab world long before Christianity or Islam. The problem was Zionism. Hebron was an Arab city until 1500 when Jews moved in from Spain and Portugal without incident.

 

But think about it - "Zionism" is essentially about the Jews
going back to their homeland.
If you are "opposed to Zionism" you want Jews to stay where
they are - in countries where they are increasingly unwelcome.

 

Its just another pernicious ISM.. I understand how abused and frightened they had to be after WW2.. but what is their excuse to be abusing the Palestinians and Lebanese now?

Its racist... Israel is masquerading as a democracy. They are no better than Turkey.

 

No, Israel DOESN'T "MASQUERADE" as a democracy. Israel IS a democracy. In fact
the Israeli Arabs have, what about five seats in the new Knesset if I recall. They are
becoming a sizable party.

Not sure how they "treat" the poor Lebanese. Couple of weeks ago Hezbollah fired
anti-tank missiles at Israeli vehicles. The Israelis made out there were deaths - why?
I give Hezbollah the impression they "won" something, and wouldn't come back for
more (at least, for a while.) Can you explain that?

 

This is what Hezbollah hit, regardless of whatever Israel claimed (idle vehicle) and whatever ruse it ran to then pretend it had suffered no injuries

Even Israeli eyewitnesses corroborated Hezbollah's account:

 

Point remains... the Jews left even though it wasn't allowed. That law was lifted due to international pressure, and than Israel arranged their planes to leave those countries. And so,... this doesn't amount to be ethnically cleansed.

How about you go prove that. While it's rather well known millions of Palestinians have not obtained a different citizenship, and so all have the right to return back home where the Jew ethnically cleansed them. And so Israel is in a very clear violation to deny those Palestinian citizens their rights. The Jew state does that, because of ethnic reasons. It therefor is an apartheid state, where the Jew has more rights than a Palestinian.

 

Without looking at Hezbollah propaganda - this "group" for want of a better
term, have engaged in various actions against Israel at the border. And
when Israel retaliates it claims to be an innocent party.

I recall how Japan's Yamamoto showed his staff video of Americans
giving full military honors to those pilots shot down during the Pearl
Harbor attack. It amazed him. He said an enemy who did that would
be even harder to fight because it had principles.

Compare this to Hezbollah. It extracted large sums or concessions
out of Israel for the return of several captured Israelis. Not live men but
coffins turned up, and were summarily THROWN off the back of a
truck onto the ground. No principles, no honesty, no fair treatment
of POW's, no respect for the lives of its own people who shelter tens
of thousands of rockets in their homes, no respect for its own political
processes (ie PM Harari) and no respect for its promises to the United
Nations. And maybe one day the nuclear war that begins in or with the
Middle East will have Hezbollah finger prints all over it.

 

The Jews still are the main cause why the Palestinians fled.
The Jews than made it illegal by law for Palestinians who fled, to return home.
The Jews than made it legal by law for the Jews to thieve the land of people who may not return home.
The Jews than renamed entire streets and cities, and bulldozered flat one city after the other.
With that, the Jews ethnically cleansed +700.000's of citizens.
And so the Israeli Jews are still liable for all of it.

It's not as if any of them is returning what was stole back to the rightful owner.
You can't say the same about the people who return things that the nazi's stole.

 

How many seats have the Israeli Arabs won in the current elections? They could form a govt with
support of left wing parties.

 

Where do the Jews come from?

 

violation of human rights and international law.

all citizens have the right to come and go as they please

 

its your claim that the 800,000 Jews of the Muslim world were dual-citizens, therefore it was legal to ban them from leaving.

where is your proof they were dual citizens? all you have is Algeria.

how about Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Morocco, Libya?

hmmmm? got any evidence?

 

Not relevant to the point that the Jews ethnically cleansed +700.000 Arab civilians. And they have no rights to return due to being Arab, unlike Jews. Such is the apartheid rule of Israel. It's done so, to make Israel into a Jew state. The racism oozes from that all over.

 

Unless they accept the citizenship of an other country.

 

I never made that claim. You go source them Jews did not take an other citizenship.

https://www.usa.gov/renounce-lose-citizenship
"Intentionally acquire citizenship in a foreign country"

ergo.. when an American takes a different citizenship, even the US reserves the right to erase your previous citizenship. Millions of Palestinians never took an other citizenship, they have the right to return and become Israeli. That doesn't apply to Jews taking other citizenship. And even you acknowledge the Algerians Jews took the French citizenship. That's what you get, when you're disloyal to your home country. Lots of people claim its a racist meme to question the loyalty of the Jew. But history shows....

 

Why would US laws apply in Israel, or in any other country outside US?

 

It's only an example that you indeed can loose your citizenship, and so Jews have no right to return to Algeria, since they became French. They accepted French citizenship and sides with other French people to apply thug colonial rule. When the colony was lost, the French went to France. And so the point that Jews were ethnically cleansed is fake. Abd they also have no right to return to Algeria. Unlike them millions of Palestinians the Jews ethnically cleansed.

 

the Arab League States never claimed that their Jewish citizens had taken on a foreign citizenship.

that's YOUR claim.

and its totally baseless

 

which you have NO proof that the 800,000 Jews of the Arab states, did.

 

Go quote me on that. I only said they left, they weren't ethnically cleansed. That is a zionist lie. They do it so justify that the ethnic cleansing of Arabs by the Jews is justified as a tit for tat... as if people can now thieve from some random Jew because of Bernard Madoff.

 

You go prove that. It's your point.

 

Oh if only you cared about all the mid eastern countries that treat their citizens like filth and Hamas who exploits and does nothing for its citizens.Maybe you should hold them to the same standard you hold Israel

 

The Jews ethnically cleansed 100.000's of Arabs. The Jew state of Israel banned civilians from returning if they weren't Jews. And than the Jew state thieved the property of those who were banned to return home. The Israeli Jews voted for this, they refuse to keep back the real estate that they stole with their war criminal behavior. And add... violently oppress them into absolute poverty. Hamas is just a product that counters what these Jews started out to do to them Palestinians. Rather weird to assume people would just accept that. In the US it is rather normal to shoot to kill a person who wants to thieve your property.

 

The number of Arabs seems to go up all the time.
The percentage who were actively driven out goes up all the time.
The number of Jews driven out of Arab nations goes down all the time.
The percentage of Jews driven out of these nations goes down all the time.

See a pattern?

Palestinians are allowed to return to Israel - as part of a comprehensive
peace deal which they won't agree to.

 

So where do the Jews come from?