Hamas fires rockets at Israel

What is a nation ?
They need to have their own homeland -> check
They need to have a unique culture -> check
They need to have their own language -> check

 

If you are already in possession of land, you are free to declare any State you wish. You cannot however invade someone elses land and and declare a State, at least not legally. That is what the Jews did. They invaded and stole someone elses country.

 

none of them had aqcuired foreign citizenship.

 

The Jews in Algeria did. They took on French citizenship to side with the other French to brutally oppress Arabs in Algeria, for the sake of thug colonial rule. It seems to be some racist meme to question the loyalty of Jews. But in this case, it's obvious. As well as all them Jews who left the Arab peninsula even when it was not allowed by law. To than, when the law was lifted due to foreign pressure,... they left to accept some other citizenship.

 

so you admit the every Muslim state that banned Jewish citizens from leaving the country (unless they had obtained dual citizenship) was violating international law.

and btw, The French government had granted citizenship to Jewish Algerians, indigenous and colons, in 1870.

and again, almost all Arab states banned Jewish citizens from leaving the country, regardless of their dual-citizenship status.

meanwhile in Iraq:

• In September 1948, Jews were dismissed from the railways, the post office, the telegraph department and the Finance Ministry on the ground that they were suspected of "sabotage and treason".
• On October 8, 1948, the issuance of export and import licenses to Jewish merchants was forbidden.
• On October 19, 1948, the discharge of all Jewish officials and workers from all governmental departments was ordered.
• In October, the Egyptian paper El-Ahram estimated that as a result of arrests, trials and sequestration of property, the Iraqi treasury collected some 20 million dinars or the equivalent of 80 million U.S. dollars.
• On December 2, 1948, the Iraq government suggested to oil companies operating in Iraq that no Jewish employees be accepted

 

How do you know this?

 

The Jews left the Arabian peninsula a thousand years ago. What citizenships did they acquire?

 

All that was because the Palestinians had been forced out of Palestine and 300 Arab villages had been destroyed.

 

Despite an exodus to Israel or other countries of Jews that occurred throughout the Muslim world, Syrian Jews were not officially expelled. But after Israeli independence in 1948, the situation for Syrian Jews deteriorated once again. The Aleppo Arab riot of 1947 killed dozens of Jews and destroyed hundreds of homes, shops, and shuls. This marked the beginning of mass Jewish emigration from Syria to Israel, despite the Syrian government’s willingness to put to death those who attempted to flee. Other repressive measures against Jews included barring them from government service, not allowing them to own telephones or driver’s licenses, and forbidding them to buy property. The anti-Semitic attitude of Syria’s government was displayed to the world when it provided shelter for Nazi war criminal Alois Brunner, an aide to Adolf Eichmann. Initially, Lebanon allowed Syrian Jews escaping to Israel free passage through its territory. This ended when the Syrian government began confiscating the passports of Jews, and Lebanon announced that it could not allow persons through its borders without travel documents

The Syrian government passed a number of restrictive laws against the Jewish minority. In 1948, the government banned the sale of Jewish property. In 1953, all Jewish bank accounts were frozen. Jewish property was confiscated, and Jewish homes which had been taken from their owners were used to house Palestinian refugees.[48]

In March 1964, a new decree banned Jews from traveling more than 5 kilometres (3 mi) from their hometowns.[48] Jews were not allowed to work for the government or banks, could not acquire drivers' licenses, and were banned from purchasing property.

 

the Jews of Iraq, Algeria, Morocco, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, Mauritania, Sudan, were NOT responsible for the crimes of the Israeli govt.

do you think they were? deserved to be punished and face Nuremberg Laws simply due to their religion?

sorry bro, but you can't complain about how the Israelis treated the Palestinians and then in the same breath justify persecution of ALL Jews in Muslims lands, simply because of their religion.

 

So let me get this straight: the deportation and expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Arabs from Palestine and seizing their property was a terrible crime....and therefore the 800,000 Jews of the Muslim world deserved to be punished and persecuted for it????????

wow, that makes a lot of sense.

maybe in the Koran.

 

Aren't they always doing this? Seems like the headline would be: "Hamas doesn't fire rockets at Israel!"

 

You and I know that, but the Arab world didn't... The Arab world didn't persecute the Jews..The Nuremberg laws were in Germany NOT Palestine.

 

The Zionists expelled over 700,000 Palestinians .. what are you talking about?

 

You're changing the subject while I dunno what international law you're referring too. The point is they left the country which was against the law,... and so it can not be ethnic cleansing.

So there you go. They can't be Alergian when they become French citizens to help out to violently oppress Arabs for the sake of thug colonial rule. So they weren't ethnically cleansed.

While the Jews did ethnically cleanse the Palestinians.

 

How about you go answer me that. I aint your Siri or Alexa.

 

I don't know the answer to that one. Some returned to Jericho and some went to Yemen I've read.

 

HAMAS has only been around since the 1980s .. They are Sunni, allied with the Muslim Brotherhood and supported by Iran. The Sabeel and most Palestinians (Muslim and Christian) tried to stop their founding, but oddly enough Israel was for HAMAS initially.

There used to be a lot of Israeli testimony about that on CSPAN if you choose to look for it.

 

I was being facetious, but Hamas does fire rockets into Israel a lot. Why is this particular example newsworthy?

 

in 1948 the United Nations general Assembly passed a law that citizens of a country have the right to leave the country and come back whenever they want.

That means that the Arab states had no right to prevent Jewish citizens from leaving the country

now you can claim they had the right to prevent Jewish citizens from leaving the country if they were also citizens of another country but to claim all 800,000 Jews in the Muslim world were dual citizens is b******* and you know it.

 

I thought it was public knowledge.
https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Hamas-and-ISIS-hate-Israel-and-each-other-600265

 

Palestinians fled Israel in 1948, despite pleas from Israel for them to stay (like many
actually did, and today are about to form a major voting block in the Knesset)
The UN definition means that anyone now a citizen of another country, or living under
that country's protection - IS NOT A REFUGEE ANYMORE.

But... people cite the UN when and if it suits them to do so.

 

I never thought of it.. Thanks for the link.. HAMAS is sponsored by Iran and ISIS came out of Iraq.. Makes perfect sense.

 

The tragedy for the Palestinians is that if Israel destroys Hamas then they will
chose (or have chosen for them) Islamic Jihad or ISIS.

When Jordan controlled the West Bank and Egypt controlled Gaza no-one
seemed to be contesting this.
And when Thailand destroys Muslim homes and builds over the top of them
it's not an issue for most people, including Muslims.
Can't help but feel one of the root causes of all this Palestinian business is
a hate of the Jew.

 

Too late, don't you think? Over 600,000 European Jews had moved into Palestine by 1930.... and between 1947 and 1949 they destroyed over 300 Arab villages. I don't think there was any mistaking their intention by the late 1920s.

The number of Jews from the Muslim world keep increasing by 100,000 every year or so. Possible I suppose. They left between 1948 and 1973.