Here's how Elizabeth Warren would change Social Security

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  1. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    Way to dodge a question with a question. When you make a claim YOU should supply the data.

    I will say my Congressman (Alex Mooney WV) is a conservative Republican and he strongly supports Social Security and Medicare.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I’m a no wing guy who does not like being extorted and cheated by the Federal Government and I support any effort to get them to cough up as much of what has been stolen from me over the past 50 years and counting. If Warren can kick up my checks by a couple grand when I finally get them, she’s got my vote. Then maybe I’ll drive a Cadillac instead of a Buick into the Sunset.
     
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    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    What is Warren going to do to address our biggest problem, the ever growing national debt?

    What is Warren going to do to address the 2nd biggest problem, an invasion of illegals?

    With Trump we know the answers. He increased the debt and gave lip service to stopping the swarm of illegals. If I was a college IT grad I would be highly upset at the way the Trump administration brings in Indians to take our IT jobs.
     
  4. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Pelosi is an obstructionist. She doesn't support anything that won't enrich her or that won't benefit Israel. Increasing SS payments don't do either one of those things for her.
     
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    A liberal wanting to raise taxes on the job creators, what a surprise.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    The only way to deal with the national debt is to implement a huge tax increase, which will tick everyone off. People get rich off of the deficit and poor people can't afford to pay higher taxes that will have an impact on reducing the debt. The rich people have the money but they buy the securities and get interest payments. When people stop buying the securities then the debt will become a real problem but it could be solved by simply refuting the debt. It is just paper and nothing real.
     
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    Or to cut the budget, say 1% a year in all departments. Nobody would notice.
     
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    The guy making $136k or $250k.
    Those are the "rich" guys you speak of?
    They're the guys being targeted by Warren and the posters on this board.

    Are you participating in the hyperbole of these "rich" paying less than you?
     
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    Ok, take the money from the welfare mommas with 6 kids and give it to retirees.
    Just dont raise the tax on people who make more than you
     
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    You and tens upon tens of millions of you voted for the politicians who scammed you your entire lives.
    You eat the turd
     
  11. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are full of crap. I only want fair value for the money I was forced to invest. You are the leach who is against fellow citizens being properly compensated on their lifetime investment to save a few bucks on your taxes.
     
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    I am referring to the rich like Romey and Trump and the corps like Amazon
     
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    Your neighbor doesn't owe it to you
     
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    Oh, so Warren only proposed tax increases on them, and all of the posters in this thread that support her plan only want to tax these guys too?
    And you? You only want to tax them and not the ones Warren proposed increasing taxes on?
     
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    we want taxes on the rich to go back up to what they were under Reagan, and those making under 250k need a supper sized tax cut
     
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    So you oppose Warren's plan?
     
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    she supports that, she also wants to push American Patriotism, reduce foreign imports and foreign outsourcing

    Warren wants to give the power back to the middle class
     
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    I am not asking my neighbor for the money. I am asking those who extorted it from me. When I was forced into paying and investing in SS, I did not whine and blame my neighbors champ. I paid it rather than risk having those scumbags steal my house and garnish my wages. Now, I only want them to recompensate me for my investment over these 50 years. 3k a month is not fair compensation. Warren’s plan is excellent. $2000 more a month with COLA adjustments is a good place to start. If she lays this out, you can kiss Florida and Arizona’s asses goodbye. Then if the House passes it and the Senate doesn’t you can kiss the Senate goodbye for a long while. You are ready to condemn a fair plan to restore funds to those who paid through the nose for decades because it might cost you and some other people who make 150k to 300k a year a few thousand bucks. Well boo f*ckin hooo.
     
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    Bo ****in hoo you.
    You want other people punished to pay for you.
    They already pay the same SS tax you did.
    Eat dog food in retirement for all I care
     
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    Gentlemen -- please let me remind you both -- the only outstanding injustice at this point is in the fact that cost-of-living increases in Social Security have ranged from NON-EXISTENT to PITIFUL for the last ten years! When this enormous negligence is corrected with additional payouts, we'll be back on track and the situation will once again be as fair as it ever was.

    Cost-of-living increases in SS have routinely been applied to the benefits for those who have EARNED them since 1975 -- until during the last ten years.... Take a look:

    Social Security Cost-Of-Living Adjustments showing increase percentages:

    Year
    Percent Increase
    1975 8.0
    1976 6.4
    1977 5.9
    1978 6.5
    1979 9.9
    1980 14.3
    1981 11.2
    1982 7.4
    1983 3.5
    1984 3.5
    1985 3.1
    1986 1.3
    1987 4.2
    1988 4.0
    1989 4.7
    1990 5.4
    1991 3.7
    1992 3.0
    1993 2.6
    1994 2.8
    1995 2.6
    1996 2.9
    1997 2.1
    1998 1.3
    1999* 2.5
    2000 3.5
    2001 2.6
    2002 1.4
    2003 2.1
    2004 2.7
    2005 4.1
    2006 3.3
    2007 2.3
    2008 5.8
    2009 0.0 (ZERO)
    2010 0.0 (ZERO)
    2011 3.6
    2012 1.7
    2013 1.5
    2014 1.7
    2015 0.0 (ZERO)
    2016 0.3
    2017 2.0
    2018 2.8


    * The COLA for December 1999 was originally determined as 2.4 percent based on CPIs published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Pursuant to Public Law 106-554, however, this COLA is effectively now 2.5 percent.

    OK, there it is for all to see! Now, who wants to take this situation and become the next President of the United States?! :oldman:
     
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    You comment makes no sense whatsoever with respect to what I wrote.
     
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    You think we have to take care of some sector of society.
    Take it out of spending somewhere else.
     
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    That's what the gov says CPIs are, that's what they are.
     
  24. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Cutting the budget will not reduce the debt. Only increased taxes will. If the budget was $100 for the entire year the Congress Critters would still run a deficit and borrow $43.

    The debt is about $22.6 Trillion https://usdebtclock.org. That is about $183,252 for each taxpayer. Put your check in the mail.
     
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    The important thing is to keep the Social Security system adequately funded. Raise the income cap on contributions if necessary.

    Social Security keeps older folks independent, and it keeps younger people from having to support their parents in their old age. It's a good deal for everyone.
     
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