Insiders Predict Pelosi May Not Go Through With Impeachment After Hearings

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  1. LogNDog

    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    Now we get to see that this impeachment is just for show. They were in a so much of a hurry Schiff couldn't take the time to take enforce their own subpoenas because Trump was such a danger to national security. Now that they have their "peachment" they don't know what to do with it.

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    Just the OPPOSITE!

    Pelosi now CONTROLS the GOP Senate in that they have no idea when she could drop this trial in their laps.
     
  3. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol.
     
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    Nope, they got the funds then purchased weapons with the funds.
     
  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I say wait until the Durham criminal investigation drops.
     
  6. Derideo_Te

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    The clock is not ticking down on the GOP Senate Primaries so they do NOT have the luxury of waiting.
     
  7. Hoosier8

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    Sure thing. If Pelosi wants to play politics I am sure this will help them during the next election. :eyepopping:
     
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    You're assuming that they care when she drops it in their lap. Why should they care? Impeachment isn't hurting Trump in the polls.
     
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    Pelosi is just exposing the dubious self serving nature of the GOP to the electorate.
     
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    It will hurt the GOP Senators in the Primaries which is what makes it an effective political strategy.
     
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    Some months back I linked and posted the appropriations bill specific to the Ukraine and the military aid in question. I suggest you find the same. You'll see, as I and others have pointed out repeatedly, the final disposition of any military aid is at the discretion of the executive branch.

    It can be no other way. War and armed conflict create fluid and dynamic environments. Instantaneous change is the order of the day, the constant. The ability to change, terminate or redirect military forces must reside in a command structure that can act in a moment's notice, not in a legislative body.
     
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    LOL, after the dem clown show that is hilarious.
     
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    No, not just at his discretion. To deny those funds through the OMB as he did he has to justify it, No evidence of pilfering of the funds, no sign of Ukraine using the weapons on our allies and no signs of the weapons being sold on the black market. The DoD had already certified that Ukraine had met it's end of the bargain so Trump had no legal grounds to prevent the funds being used.
     
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    Release of military aid requires concurrence of the DoD and State.
     
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    This is about pushing a strategy that could very much force impeachment to hurt trump at the polls.

    Consider this possibility: John Bolton appears to testify and says, "Yes, trump ordered all the military aid to be withheld until Ukraine agrees to announce these investigations."

    Would your opinion of trump shift? My guess is that a significant percentage of Republican Senators definitely would.
     
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    Dems took the House because Republicans failed to make even a token showing of holding Trump to account.
     
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    If this strategy results in someone like Bolton testifying that "Yes, Trump did order the money withheld until Ukraine agreed to announce those investigations," then holding the impeachment definitely resulted in hurting trump very, very much.
     
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    ....nope
     
  19. Egoboy

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    Why? Do you think a single GOP Senator will give a crap?

    I don't...
     
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    And they both gave it.
     
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    "I believe the democrats will either condemn Trump for what they claim he did and not impeach him, or they may even say with an election less than a year away that they'll let the voters decide".

    Hmmm...

    How did that work out?

    According to what I saw, Trump DID Get Impeached.
     
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    and that's a shame and a reason to vote them out or have recalls and get someone in who will do their duty.
     
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  23. StillBlue

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    And Rudy! Please let Rudy testify.
     
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    Fake News!!

    Last night's vote was 2 articles of APPROVAL of the greatest presidency ever....

    (Or so Trump is likely being told this AM)

    Article 1 = Greatest President Ever
    Article 2 = Greatest Phone Call Ever
     
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    Yep, the dem clown show impeached a President for a phone call with no evidence of a crime. Fascinating.
     

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