Three years into Trump presidency, his ‘immediate’ replacement for ‘Obamacare’ hasn’t emerged

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Ohhh I got you now, it's not about fixing healthcare it is about your insatiable appetite to just get Trump. And to replace it you have to destroy, you keep talking out both sides of your mouth just because you can't stand Trump.
     
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    Then why didn't Obama and the Democrats DO THAT?? It's their program wasn't it there responsibility to fix their own program instead of sitting around with the thumbs up their arses so that now you can blame Trump. And like any government program the longer it is in place and the more people they can get on it the harder it is to even reform let alone end.

    But you have made yourself quite clear this isn't about actually fixing it this is just about his campaign speech.
     
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    And you have what to say about trump's efforts to replace Obamacare? Got anything other than blaming 4 months of impeachment for trumps failures to even propose an Obamacare replacement during his first 36 months in office?
     
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    I hate trump with a ****ing passion.

    But if that "****ing moron" has a plan for fixing or improving healthcare, then I will listen. Where can I find his immediate replacement for Obamacare?
     
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    Testy, testy, seems the stress of Trump's winning is really starting to get to you. Having to resort to mentioning people leaving office as somehow Trump's fault shows your desperation to find something, anything at all to smear him. But sure I'll bite.

    Ask yourself, would you give up your lifelong political aspirations just bc you don't like the president who is bound by term limits? Or would you do so knowing the very dirty politics of the democratic party, they'd put you and your entire family through hell if you even mentioned running for president? I mean given the fact they've proven they'll stop at nothing to win even going as far as manufacturing so called "evidence" as in the infamous Russian dossier, why would anyone want to go through that? And that's their point, right? Bullying opponents and blackmail is what they do.

    Look at what they tried to do against Jim Jordan to discredit him. The only thing they could find was nothing he did, but rather dirt on someone he was associated with through his job. But that didn't stop them, noooo. They just threw that at the wall hoping to make it stick.

    CORRUPTION to the max!
     
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    Democrats are not the reason that ~45% of the House GOP has left office since trump became President.

    In 2017-2018, 23 Republicans decided to retire from public office altogether. In 2019 (and 2 days of 2020) alone, there have been 21 Republicans to announce they are leaving office altogether.

    You can bitch and moan about the politics of Democrats, but it is the Republicans who are picking up their toys and going home while the Democrats remain behind to do the work.
     
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    ROFL ...I forgot to mention one other thing democrats are masters of which is brainwashing.

    Most of those you mentioned that are retiring from political offices are still active but work as commentators on Fox news defending Trump.
     
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    I'm not going to repeat myself why do you keep ignoring the incremental changes? And with with possible removal now........
    So what had Pelosi proposed the Dems won the House on healthcare.
     
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    Again, you are debating something you either know nothing about, or your being intentionally revisionist.

    Obamacare was actually working. So why dont you ask Marco Rubio why they defunded the risk corridors ?
     
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    And I am not going to repeat myself after linking you to at least two major pieces of healthcare related legislation passed by the House since they won in 2018.
     
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    Trump tried to repeal and replace obamacare early on but the republicans in congress didn't have something to replace it with fast enough.
     
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    So why are they putting faux impeachment ahead of it? And you said it didn't need to be fixed anyway so why do you keep harping on fixing it?
     
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    Not under the current circumstances.
     
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    Why don't you? Legal says it doesn't need to be fixed then blames Trump for not fixing it. You the same?
     
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    again, you are debating something you obviously know nothing about.

    Ask Rubio why he defunded the risk corridors.....its a simple ask ;)
     
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    Its no worse than Gitmo not closing in an year, or Obama failing to get 'comprehensive' immigration reform his first year. Its exactly the same hypocrisy we see every time liberals whine about Trump...
     
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    If your income is so low you don't need to file taxes, that means your subsidy to get very very insurance for about $60 per month!

    If someone making income and not filing taxes, then they are deadbeat citizens sponging off the society. Get a job (at least minimum wage), file your taxes, get low cost health insurance.
     
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    My "job" is taking care of my signifigant other who had a stroke in 2017 that left her needing assistance to move about (she was already an above knee amputee, for decades) We would qualify as common law marriage but Fl does not recognize it unless you relocate from a state that does.
     
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    Let's be real here...do you really believe the dems will agree to any healthcare bill Trump proposes? You think he doesn't know it will be dead before it hits the house floor as it was the first time when RINO John McCain did his thumb's down motion, smiling and laughing with the democrats?

    At that time Trump told the nation if they wanted healthcare reform, they'd better vote more republicans to the house. Instead in 2018 more democrats were voted in and now as a result it's impeachment, impeachment, impeachment.
     
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    You go ask him if it's so simple and you want to know. And what am I missing exactly. Legal says it doesn't need to be fixed then complains Trump hasn't done so, pretty clear to me.
     
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    Gee, in your difficulty, Republicans ONLY have blocked YOU from getting low income Medicare after Obama and the Democrats SPECIFICALLY included people like you to get pretty good Medicare.

    I suggest 2 things:

    1: Vote to Democrats in order to get decent care rather than voting Republican who help the wealthy but screwing the working and poor and sick and old.

    2: move to a state where healthcare is available. Your significant other might feel a better deal too.

    But yeah, you are screwed. But I suggest that there is nothing the Republicans have done in the last 20 years that will be done to done anything to avoid your situation. Obamacare was the only hope many people who could not get insurance otherwise. And you understand that health insurance costs have risen before Obamacare faster than Obamacare has?

    The only advantage before Obamacare was there had more and more garbage policies that provided little meaningful coverage but people thought they had REAL insurance after fast-talking insurance salesmen persuaded people they had their garbage was real insurance for $100 per month.

    Good luck!
     
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    their tragedy is a good opportunity to vote democrat
     
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    FFS man, you dont even know what the risk corridors are, therefore you don't know what your debating. Rubio destroyed the ACA when he defunded the risk corridors. The right knew exactly what they were doing, and the rubes on the right fell in lock step to claim the act was poorly designed. Hell, your proof positive of my point, Your debating something you don’t even know about.
     
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