Three years into Trump presidency, his ‘immediate’ replacement for ‘Obamacare’ hasn’t emerged

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  1. MrTLegal

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    Obamacare was not about reducing the cost of health insurance premiums. It is aimed at increasing access, slowing the rate of growth, and improving the type of health insurance plans offered.

    All three goals have been very successful.
     
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    Given up on impeachment???

    Now we know Pelosi is a liar. If Trump was too dangerous to be allowed to remain president she wouldn't be sitting on the articles of impeachment.

    Time for all Democrats to admit, the house dems did a horrible job of making their case, because there never was a case . It was purely a democratic fishing expedition and they got skunked, ...... again..

    Trump will absolutely be reelected in 2020.

    Now pelosi wants to push this as close to the election in hopes of making it hard for Republican senators in their elections.

    No one really cares about health care reform because we know there is no way we can afford it...
    The American people cannot afford the taxes to pay for it, not even the rich taxed at a very high rate.
    Hell we can't even afford our current government programs.
     
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    No one knew how complicated healthcare was...hehe
     
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    It did a great job of forcing hundreds of small family clinics to sell out to corporate hospital chains that are milking the system and providing "wellness" exams instead of an actual physicals.
    Obamacare was a boon for insurance companies and increased the overall med cost for millions of Americans. Well done obama.
     
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    But, but. Greedy oil and coal companies...
     
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    Healthcare is either the most or second most important topic to voters. It is the primary reason for the #BlueWave in 2018 and it is a signature failure for Trump and the GOP.

    But no, impeachment marches along just fine. The articles will sent over just as soon as McConnell provides a rules package that can earn 51 votes.
     
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    Three years into Trump presidency, his ‘immediate’ replacement for ‘Obamacare’ hasn’t emerged.

    Hopefully it never will. I think trump understands the folly of putting government in charge of things.
     
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    At the slowest rate of growth for the last 40 years.

    But you are almost certainly hitting on one of the primary reasons why Trump has failed to produce his "immediate" replacement plan. His financial backers are those corporate hospital chains, the insurance companies, and their shareholders.
     
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    Creating a new military branch, declaring an emergency declaration so that he could seize private land, and spending more government money (while collecting less revenue) than any previous President is a shitty way of demonstrating that "understanding."
     
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    it's not a failure to refuse to buy something you cannot afford...
     
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    No, he just has enough sense to understand what a mistake it is to put federal government in charge of things.
     
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    Not related to anything I said, but OK.
     
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    That's why I added the emoji. Nothing could be more stupid that putting government more in charge of health care than it is already. Trump understands that. Why don't you?
     
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    And that's why Trump decided to never propose his immediate replacement to Obamacare?
     
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    TrumpCare

    "Trump Official Says Diabetes a Preexisting Condition Not Worthy of Coverage"

    https://insulinnation.com/living/tr...t-a-preexisting-condition-worthy-of-coverage/

    Trump cares about the rich insurance corps, as we saw from the plan he pushed, not the people
     
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    to be fair, Trump never had a plan, he had hoped republicans had a plan he could take credit for, they did not
     
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    It is an opinion but I hope that is the reason.
     
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    dodge noted
     
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    I'm pretty sure he never had a plan. I doubt that he hoped republicans would have a plan because it would be a bad idea for them to have one. He doesn't want government involved in health care. There are millions of us out here that feel the same way.
     
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    ok, then his wisdom is the replacement he promised is no replacement?
     
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    so you think Trump lied?
     
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    Right back at ya.

    Where is Trump's immediate replacement?
     
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    Scroll back, never said it was here or that there will be A replacement, it is being done incrementally but like other things at a standstill while the Democrats pursue removing him from office.
     
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    You could be right. In fact the main goal if I remember right was to get everyone insured. But in the debate back in 2009/10, the cost of health insurance was suppose to decline. At least that was one of the promises.

    I think the idea of taking something away with no replacement is what made the ACA become popular. You may think what you have sucks, but having what you have even if it sucks is much better than having nothing.
     
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    1. My daughters deductible that does not pay one cent until the deductible is met, went from $7000 in 2019 to $9000 in 2020. You know where you can insert your slowest growth program.
    2. Hospital chains and the likes of United Health care who announced and added a very large nine story building and associated campus within the first few months following the introduction of obamacare.
    You live in a dream would if you believe the average working American's healthcare costs are under control because of obamacare.
    If you choose to start a thread claiming the medical profession is swamped with young fresh faced kids wanting to become a family physician I will be happy to contribute.
     
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