Three years into Trump presidency, his ‘immediate’ replacement for ‘Obamacare’ hasn’t emerged

A massive bipartisan drug pricing bill just got passed almost exclusively by house Democrats two weeks ago.

 

Well maybe if they stop trying to remove Trump and take it to the White House they can come to an agreement on something which he has already started. Now what about insurance?

 

This got proposed by House Democrats in March and passed in May.

https://www.policymed.com/2019/04/house-democrats-propose-new-sweeping-health-care-legislation.html

 

Maybe trump can actually propose an Obamacare replacement like he said would happen immediately and has been MIA for more than 3 years.

 

Where have the Democrats been for 13? He has made incremental changes, some substantial where was Reid, where is Pelosi and Schumer it's THEIR MESS.

 

A failure then?

 

Well over 100 House sponsored bills are on Mitch McConnell's desk that include bills on prescription drugs and the opioid crisis. There they stay. Democrats have done their part now it's up to Moscow Mitch.

 

Maybe they can stop with the impeachment which is hamstringing the government and actually try to negotiate it through the WH and Senate and continue what Trump has started.

 

I dont qualify for any, not married and have not filed taxes.

 

Trump hamstrung himself when he shut down the government over border wall funding. He then hamstrung it further when he declared a national emergency and took money from military families to pay for that wall. He then hamstrung it further when he tried to cheat in the 2020 elections.

Trump can not blame anyone else except himself.

 

Do you know a good lawyer?

 

Nope.

 

Who controls the house?

 

The Party that just passed a bipartisan drug pricing bill, a budget, a defense bill, the USMCA. And articles of impeachment all in two weeks.

Democrats: Proving they can govern and hold trump accountable at the same time.

 

Have you tried speaking with a health insurance advocate?

 

Nope, straight from Healthcare.gov

 

Premiums are also up, but in his mind as long as he didn't something to dismantle the old policy, he fulfilled his job. It's actually a pattern throughout his presidency, we see the dismantling of old policies, but we never see the promised improved replacement.

He promised to repeal Obamacare and replace it with something better. Didn't happen
He promised to back out of the Paris agreement and replace it with a better deal. Didn't happen
He promised to back out of the Iran nuclear agreement and replace it with a better deal. Didn't happen
He promised to back out of the TTP negotiations and replace it with a better trade deal. Didn't happen

We only ever see the dismantling part, but we never see the improved replacement, and in his mind that's just as good as a kept promise. Today he doesn't really promise that the improvements are coming anymore, instead he tells us that his promises have already been kept.

 

He gets credit for successfully conning enough idiots to win in certain purple states using these lies, that indirectly gave the 1%ers their tax break. This 'anti-establishment' president sure buttered the bread for the establishment's wealthiest

 

Well said.

Dismantling something is easy. Creating something new, especially in government, is hard. Trump has proven time and time again that he only does the easy part of any job. Even the hard part known as paying for the work you requested is usually too difficult for him.

 

Outside the attempted repeal of Obamacare in Trump's first year, I really haven't heard much about since then. Even RCP has stopped keeping track of support/opposition. Obamacare only popped up when several potential Democratic presidential candidates brought up Medicare for All to replace it. Then only when a few Republicans used that proposal, Medicare for All to state that even the Democrats were against Obamacare.

Now I can see wanting to replace it when the Hill said this:

Forty-eight percent of respondents said the ACA had not impacted their monthly insurance premium costs, while 46 percent said their premiums were worse compared to before the law. Just 14 percent of respondents said they were better off.

When asked about the health care reform's effect on co-pay fees, 41 percent said they were worse off, and 35 percent said they were not impacted. Only 13 percent said the ACA improved those costs.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-ame...-believe-they-have-personally-benefitted-from

Apparently the ACA hasn't, didn't accomplish what it was suppose to. Regardless, Trump doesn't have a plan to replace it, the GOP isn't interested it seems anymore in repealing or replacing it. I suppose the Republicans were burned when the ACA went from 37% favor, 49% oppose to 48% for, 41 Oppose because the Trump's repeal effort with nothing to replace it. The funny thing about Obamacare is it took Trump and the Republicans to make it popular.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html

 

It's a fairly classic example of, "I didn't really want it to begin with, but I'll be damned if you take it from me after I have it."

As for the goal of Obamacare, I don't necessarily believe that they wanted to reduce the monthly insurance premium costs. The goal was to slow the rate of growth and to increase access. And both goals have been fairly successful given that healthcare costs saw one of its slowest increases in 40 years shortly after the passage of Obamacare (I am not sure where to find more recent survey data) and the number of insured increased every year until last year.

https://www.thebalance.com/causes-of-rising-healthcare-costs-4064878

This study appears to suggest that the reduction of healthcare cost spending has continued. From 2001-2009, the rate of increase was 6.88%. From 2010 to 2017, it was 4.2%.

 

The above is your idea of a well reasoned debate? Really, this sort of name calling just invalidates what ever position you intended to make.

 

That is a link to Rex Tillerson, Trump's Secretary of State, calling Trump a ****ing moron.

I could provide Trump's personal quote on healthcare where he said, "No one knew healthcare would be so complicated" if you'd prefer though because that is also further evidence that he is a ****ing moron.

 

Also, I included a **** load more data in that post, including a total of seven links. The fact that you keyed in on one insult of Trump and edited out the rest of the post says more about your ability to craft a "well reasoned debate" than it does about my argument.

 

Once you get someone reliant on a freebie, it's next to impossible to take it away. This was one of the warnings issued way back at the beginning of the discussions of Obamacare.

The fact that (per your stats) only 14% said they were better off with their premiums with Obamacare, and only 13% said their co-pays were improved, and yet 48% support the ACA shows that a lot of people are idiots. 46% say their premiums are worse and 41% say their co-pays are worse, but 48% still support ACA. Some people are amazingly stupid. What kind of a fool supports something which benefits such a small percentage of people, at the expense of the majority?? That's got to be some mighty strong Koolaid....