Australia arrests 183 for setting bushfires that celebrities claim were caused by climate change

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  1. chris155au

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    How so?
     
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    https://www.smh.com.au/national/ars...nt-of-fires-are-man-made-20191117-p53bcl.html
     
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    It’s a good thing that we can trust the “ extremely left biased “ ABC to do the emergency information broadcasting.
     
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    Pretty sure ALL outlets are broadcasting it.
     
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    I don't think they should be labeled arsonists to suit the agenda of the climate change denier trolls.
    Arson is the deliberate starting of fires. Any attempt to call pointing that out semantics is transparently dishonest.
     
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    Don't know how good your maths is but 24 is not the same as nearly 200.
     
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    I don't believe those are labelled arsonists but until it's all sorted we just won't know. On the other hand it could well be argued if you go out and light your barbecue on a day when you know NO naked flames are allowed that you could well be committing arson.
     
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    No actually - the reported "183" SPECIFIC to NSW, is "bushfire related offences." However, "183" is also the figure being thrown around as the total number of arson offenses Australia wide, including by The Australian in this article: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...3/news-story/52536dc9ca9bb87b7c76d36ed1acf53f. In this article, it breaks down the arson arrest figures for each state. When I added them up, I got 173, not 183. So my guess is that someone mixed up 183 and 173 given the common third digit of "3." There's alot of figures out there and I can understand how people are getting confused. I've spent the past 30 minutes trying to get my head around them.
     
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    Yeah, it would help if you didn't live in "The land of Iceni."
     
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    That much combustion is going to change world climate at least a very little bit temporarily.

    Combustion is a good thing, but mankind gets no benefit from the arsonist combustion of these nutter climate changers who only bring hell on earth.

    How can you have a country with so many nutters running free like that?
     
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    You are digging the hole you put yourself in deeper and deeper with each post. Some of the wacko's in Australia have been caught. In the name of saving the climate they are fouling the air with tons and tons of hydrocarbons not to mention to the deaths and destruction.
    In this country we have politicians, Hollywood critters, and billionaires flying all over the planet in private jets while telling us we have to stop bathing, stop easing meat, and drive electric cars.
    Hypocrisy reigns prevalent. All of them need medication.
     
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    Okay, so this cuts against the 'climate change causes fires' argument, right?
     
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    It's paywalled so I can't read it.
     
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    If the conditions weren’t so conducive to burning, the fires would probably not be catastrophic.
    We had rain forest burning this year and that’s a bit unusual.
     
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    The Australian is a right wing rag- you need a broader selection of media.


    “The Australian, Rupert Murdoch’s flagship newspaper, has defended itself against criticism it downplayed unprecedented bushfires by failing to put a picture of the disaster on the front page of an edition, even as newspapers across the world featured the harrowing scenes.

    Many of the world’s leading mastheads featured pictures of the devastation of the Australian bushfires on page one on Thursday. But the Australian’s first edition ran an upbeat picture story about the New Year’s Day picnic races at Hanging Rock.

    Sources at the newspaper said the newsroom was short-staffed over the holidays, however it was noted that resources were found to attack the ABC with gusto over its New Year’s Eve concert.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...ing-bushfires-in-favour-of-picnic-races#img-1
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    For the climate folks: IT'S IN THE LINK IN THE OP

    According to The Australian, “Police arrested 183 people for lighting bushfires across Queensland, NSW, Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania in the past few months. NSW police data shows 183 people have been charged or cautioned for bushfire-related offences since November 8, and 24 arrested for deliberately starting bushfires.”

    That’s 183 people who have been arrested for arson, resulting in catastrophic bushfires, displacement, property loss, and deaths of both people and animals.
     
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    I'm not arguing that accidental fires started by BBQs aren't irresponsible and illegal but they are not arson.
    Trolls trying to suggest that fires are being started deliberately to push the climate change agenda is fake news aimed at discrediting climate change activists.
    Don't fall for the lies.
     
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    Why are you under the impression that only NSW arson arrest statistics exist?
     
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    Every country needs to put a quick trial and kill on them kind of folks.
     
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    FAKE NEWS
     
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    And the misinformation being spread by the followers of an autistic 16 year old who think she is some kind of God isn't some sort of agenda? Oh pleeeassee!!
     
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    Have you learnt the difference between arson and bushfire related offences yet?
     
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    What was the purpose of posting that extract from the Smithsonian Magazine article?
     

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