Australia arrests 183 for setting bushfires that celebrities claim were caused by climate change

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Bushfires will continue to get worse or drought will continue to get worse?
     
  2. Bush Lawyer

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    Irrelevant. As many as is required in Australia. We have to get fair dinkum.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Any idea what the current number is?
     
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    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. Close to zero. It seems we outsource the capacity.
     
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    Dup
     
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    All 'contracted' aircraft. We need to own our own. At least 100 of those jets.
     
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    Are you taking the piss out of farmers who are now losing their living due to drought or too much rain, early snow?
     
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    Award winning in some cases.
     
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    That we HAVE to do something about.
     
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    Your geographic /historical ignorance does not surprise me.
    Nor your laziness in doing your own research.
    Google can help you avoid asking silly questions.
     
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    Mostly jokey jokes.
     
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    The Guardian was the paper my mentor told me would be sufficient to get me through the social policy part of my degree many years ago. For a long time the Guardian was fastidious in checking its facts. The Guardian was also one of the places where wikileaks was released to and who Snowden gave his material to with the Guardian needing to take responsibility for not releasing stuff which could result in any deaths. The Guardian was certainly a left wing paper. Everything changed after the Guardian was printing the Snowden material.

    The Guardian became a tool of British Intelligent services

    UK Security Services Neutralized Country’s Leading Liberal Newspaper

    After that article one of the people making comments pointed out that ownership of the Guardian changed hands at the same time.

    As I said the Guardian was the strongest criticiser of Corbyn and ignored information which would have allowed the previous Guardian to know what it was printing was false.

    The best investigative Journalists which the Guardian used to employ now are found on alternative Media.

    Being factual was one of the things that made me put the Guardian above other papers. Not now https://consortiumnews.com/2018/12/01/the-guardian-politico-psyop-against-wikileaks/

    Taking over the Guardian was a Prime Move by the State. They are still my main source for general information. On most things they will still give a pretty regular account. They are forever telling me I have read this many articles a month and would I not like to donate to them. I would if they were the Guardian that was. I will not donate to a paper which provides fake news about the left.


    This is off topic. I only answered because someone claimed the Guardian was a left wing paper. We need to leave it now or start another thread.
     
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    Hillary's party. They are actually doing it again. Democrats still haven't figured out why they lost in 2016.
     
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    So what? Isn't that always the case? And frankly, it isn't unique or in any way out of the norm for that region, is it? What is out of the norm is fire bugs going out to burn the place down, isn't it. That is man made. We have laws against it, and yet, these nuts are out there getting off on the destruction. that says more about the society there than the change in the climate there.
     
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    I made a one-off payment of £3 to the Guardian because I was reading a lot of their environmental coverage which is some of the best out there.
    On my next bank statement I discovered that they had set up a direct debit for £3 a month.
    I got in touch with them immediately and told them I had only made a one off payment and after a bit of being passed around different departments I managed to get my money back. I won't be donating to them again.
     
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    Hey, welcome back! Still focused on the spark and not the over abundance of fuel, I see.
    Did you read any of the information I provided? You seemed so insistent on getting it the other day.
     
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    It could be the wrong place at the wrong time, regionally, in a bad place, no volcano to point to Cleopatra's drought or yours, no sun to point to yours.

    One region will get hit more than others, and back and forth, the issue is Global; climate changes will affect some regions differently, and the small minded will see snow in their region and not get that more snow could be all that moisture you or some other region tossed up.

    That Stealth bike down there is pretty cool. Dang it, buy me one, save the planet.
     
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    I would direct you to compare what is happening today with the historic record for Australia. This year may actually be equivalent to what happened to them 1850 where a similar single fire record of 12 million acres burned. So, does it make what is happening today unprecedented? No. Does it make it unique? no. Does it make it horrible, yes. But let's not kid ourselves that climate change is the reason here. These fires have been a part of the Australian historic record for as long as convicts started living there and recorded them.
     
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    Dry gets dryer. Wet gets wetter.
    Extremes.
     
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    And what if it's the type of climate change that we can't do anything about?
     
  21. DaveBN

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    Care to provide an evaluation of that 1850 fire? Namely what burned and where?
     
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    Try the google, it will work faster for you than I will...try black thursday.....
     
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    What type are you referring to?
     
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    Nah you kept insisting I dig up resources for you. You can do the same if you want your posts to be considered valid. Thanks.
     
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    LOL... given that I referenced it already, you should consider that I already know the answer, but think it's way more instructive and a learning opportunity for you to do the work, yourself. Enjoy.
     
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