Weather station in Antarctica records high of 65, the continent's hottest temperature ever

...The Earth? What the **** does that even mean?

Volcanoes? El Nino? What?

Previous instances of climate change were caused by identifiable events like volcanic activity, orbital variations, and comets. So saying "the Earth" is a nonsensical answer.

 

It means we do not know Legal. Unlike you I'm not going to throw out some half baked theory about the primary cause for climate change and pretend based on that belief I should take Trillions (with a t) dollars to combat something I can't prove humans were the primary source or can effect it.

What part of that do you not understand?

Since you ignored it before I'll say it again. I can see trash in the ocean. I can test for man made pollutants in the soil and in the air. Those are tangible things I know humans cause and that we can combat. What you are doing is living in a fairy tail land of humans being the primary source of climate change while ignoring the actual tangible pollution humans cause every single day.

 

You claimed:

Weather station in Antarctica records high of 65, the continent's hottest temperature ever

Fake news.

 

That is why virtually no one still trusts the MSM.

 

Enjoy that mole hill.

 

We dont know? That's your answer then? That it is impossible to identify or evaluate causal factors on climate change?

One of the benefits of addressing climate change is that it also addresses other environmental pollution issues caused by humans. For example, coal fired power plants produce a whole host of other pollutants like smog and heavy metal particulates. Switching those to renewable energy sources like solar and wind also reduces the emission for those other pollutants.

 

Did you read what I said? Yes we do not know what the primary cause is for climate change.

Of course I never said that but strawman arguments are easier to attack than what I actually said aren't they Legal.

No legal its not the same. You lumping them together is why you don't have the support you need because and I'll say it again for a third time, pollution can be easily seen and proven unlike your half baked flat earth theory that humans are the primary source for climate change.

Trash in the Ocean, chemicals in the ground, even pollutants in the air can absolutely be combated but when your side demands if you are for that you must accept their religion of man made climate change you lose people.

And when your side runs from nations like China and the Philippines being the primary nations dumping trash into the ocean you reveal your hyporacy on the subject.

Its as simple as that,

 

I just enjoy pointing out the fake news.

The sky isn't falling so try not to wet yourself every time a new climate hoax is published.

 

Polar Bears dont live in Antarctica. Theyre strictly in the northern hemisphere.

 

They dont want you to know, its the height of summer in Antarctica...

 

Oh come on, you cant be serious....

Without the sun, Earth would be freakn pluto...

Every fluctuation in solar radiation effects Earth, every single one.

Solar storm of 1859

The solar storm of 1859 (also known as the Carrington Event)[1] was a powerful geomagnetic storm during solar cycle 10 (1855–1867). A solar coronal mass ejection (CME) hit Earth's magnetosphere and induced the largest geomagnetic storm on record, September 1–2, 1859. The associated "white light flare" in the solar photosphere was observed and recorded by British astronomers Richard C. Carrington (1826–1875) and Richard Hodgson (1804–1872). The storm caused strong auroral displays and wrought havoc with telegraph systems. The now-standard unique IAU identifier for this flare is SOL1859-09-01.

A solar storm of this magnitude occurring today would cause widespread electrical disruptions, blackouts and damage due to extended outages of the electrical grid.[2][3] The solar storm of 2012 was of similar magnitude, but it passed Earth's orbit without striking the planet, missing by nine days.[4]

 

Your answer to what caused climate change is "Earth." That is not an explanation. That is effectively saying that you do not know and that it is impossible to identify actual causes.

What are you doing to address China and the Phillippines placing trash into the ocean then? It is pointless to worry about that issue unless you can stop them from doing it.

That is the exact same argument being used against Climate Change. And yes, again, addressing Climate Change also addresses other environmental pollution issues.

 

As an initial matter, pluto would not be pluto without the sun.

...what do you think you are proving with this post? I never said or implied that the sun has no influence. I am trying to make it abundantly clear that the solar output can not and does explain the current warming trend.

 

You posted a picture claiming the fluctuations in the sun have little effect over the climate.

Its completely false.

Earths climate is freakn created by the sun.

 

I did not say that solar fluctuations have little effect over the climate. I said solar fluctuations do not explain the current warming trend.

And you responded by trying to imply the argument is that the sun could disappear with no impact.

 

Yeah you did. See

 

Yes, that chart helps to prove that solar fluctuations do not explain the current warming trend.

Good job.

 

The chart doesnt prove anything.
Earth is 4 billion years old, and your chart only covers 115 years.

Its fundamentally why "Climate Change" is garbage, and should never be used as an excuse to raise everyones taxes.

 

“Geomagnetic storms and solar flares occurred more frequently in 1982” “Although less intense, the X-7 flare triggered the most fierce geomagnetic storm in a decade; it distorted the earth's magnetic field, disrupted long-range communications and low-frequency navigational systems” https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1983EOSTr..64Q.137./abstract

That could be the week VXE-6 got a week off; we had to muster in the morning and afternoon, which meant I was having to ride my 12 speed bike almost 48 miles a day because I was living with a girl up north of Christchurch.

Earth’s climate is also changed my man.

 

CURRENT WARMING TREND.

I am not trying to explain 4 billion years of climate change. I am trying to explain the CURRENT WARMING TREND.

 

Sure, cutting down trees, covering grass with black top, building increasingly larger cities etc will increase the temperature, but its nothing like the effects of the Sun.

 

Ok, and Im saying you dont have anywhere nearly enough data to support your hypothesis.

 

Scientists capture billions of temperature data points every year from across the globe and across different methods of measurement.

 

Sweet news, but theres no history by comparison.