Trump Dismisses CDC Warning on Coronavirus Outbreak, I dont-think its inevitable

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  1. FlamingLib

    FlamingLib Well-Known Member

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    Do you think the CDC is scare-mongering? Have you not seen the cases jump from thousands, to tens of thousands, to near a hundred thousand? You think it will stop there? You think all the investors pulling their money out of the market are what? Scared liberals? Japan is run by liberals? S. Korea? Italy?

    People can engage in reality-denial for awhile, but reality always comes crashing in.
     
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    Do you not remember a certain quarantined cruise ship?
     
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    Yeah, I'm not going to really blame Trump on this when it gets widespread. Nothing he could do, really. CDC and HHS is running our response.

    But Bush didn't cause Katrina. He did appear totally clueless, however, and that hurt him politically. Trump can lie his ass off all day and in the end, it really doesn't matter because no one got hurt. Now? When Americans start dying from this, like other countries? What he said will come back and haunt him.

    But yeah, this was going to run its course one way or another, no matter what Trump said/did.
     
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    This is an idiotic thread, Trump is only trying to maintain calm.
     
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    This is how I see it. The world pandemic is a lever. Democrats know that they don't have a shot at the election unless the economy doesn't look as rosy come November. So, they start with fear. And panic. It doesn't hurt that the virus was launched in china because it seems to obscure their ownership of the narrative. But don't be fooled. The panic you're seeing now is making folks a LOT of money in the markets for those who are shorting and bargain hunting. The real issue is that while some are benefiting greatly, there is a real risk of actually structurally damaging the economy. And while I'm sure democrats are aware of that, they don't seem to really care, as the power seems vastly more important to them than the well being and welfare of the average citizens of this nation.

    And, as you suggest, it's a hammer to club Trump with. The fear they themselves created, becomes the credibility in the eyes of the average citizen in their rant about what Trump is, or isn't doing. It's entirely amoral. And unique to how democratic elites feel they exercise their pejorative reign in this country.
     
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    I lived in New Orleans area in 1969 when Camille came calling. I was in Arkansas waiting for her to leave.
     
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    I am not the one confused. I’d prefer to discuss the science behind Trump’s statement on warm weather and COVID-19 than parrot Vanity Fair like our “liberal” friends. So it goes.

    How do you think so many “liberals” can quote, cite, and parrot one exact article like this and then with a straight face bash others for supposedly getting information from one source? Isn’t it funny?
     
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    Do you math?

    Look at mortality rates outside of China vs inside of China.

    You either believe China numbers, or you believe numbers of the rest of the world. Which is it?
     
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    His direct quote "I don't think it's inevitable, it probably will spread or possibly will but whatever happens we're prepared" . Your fake news shows a portion of what it said to feed TDS.
     
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    Wait a minute. We can give the financial industry a TRILLION dollars, pretty much overnight, but we have to hold our hands out like Bob Cratchet for some extra funding for a ****ing pandemic?

    What they should do is borrow 1% of GDP ($170 billion), and use it to combat this, get our health-gear and medicines back in production OVER HERE, and start getting some new antibiotics in the pipeline to combat drug-resistant germs.

    We can surely afford to spend 1% of our economy to combat this and make sure we're ready for the next one.
     
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    Math is hard.
     
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    Is the CDC a "liberal organization"?
     
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    Horseshoes and nukes, horseshoes and nukes.
     
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    Hmm.. fear mongering. That's helpful. For some reason, liberals always seem to need to create the crisis. Let's examine it here, in detail. The CDC, (ok sister of Rosenstein if I'm not mistaken) sounds the alarm by suggesting that there's "nothing to be done" to stop the spread of the virus in the US...

    Well, that isn't exactly true. Nor it is true that there aren't means of detecting those who have been exposed. The challenge is how immediately the US takes steps to monitor the flow of in and out traffic into the country. How well we can monitor that depends on whether or not we can isolate those who might pose a threat. Or course, having a well regulated gate or having a wall doesn't fit nicely into the current NDP agenda, so, a free flowing sea of folks washing in from unregulated countries does pose a real threat to the nation. (Something you wont EVER hear a democrat suggest needs to be immediately addressed)

    So, then the conversation goes to the 'well, if we did something it would be "pretty disruptive".. which, again, isn't exactly true. It might be expensive, but the congress has every opportunity to advance an adequate funding bill out of the HOR (Nancy is pensively currently sitting on her thumbs hoping for a cheap political thrill here) for the president to sign. I'm not holding my breath.

    What you failed to note is that China has been even more draconian, shutting down entire cities, isolating 10s or 100s of millions of its citizens. It threatens things like global supply chains, at least temporarily until manufacturers shift their production needs elsewhere. But these can be done.

    But the situation clearly demonstrates that our plantation elite really don't care if the average joe gets sick or dies, as long as they can bundle up and use the fear they intend to inflict on this country to their advantage..
     
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    Azar has done a good job explaining proposed health care solutions as well as response to the Coronavirus (and the request for special budget add-on for virus response) over the last 3 days of grillings hearings. He's a sharp guy.
     
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    CDC put out a reasonable caution, that the virus is likely to spread. Media and politicians are fear mongering based on a normal alert. This shouldn't have become politicized, but of course if did.

    Investors aren't pulling money out of fear of the virus. Production and trade losses are tanking the markets.

    Azar clarified today that if and when this virus spreads, it will be like a severe flu season. Most people who catch the virus will be told to stay home until they feel better, just like with the flu.
     
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    Bottom line, what's a successful outcome for Trump,in the minds of liberals? There isn't one, no matter what happens when the smoke clears they will whine. Unless they set some solid parameters in which to gauge success/failure they are creating a scenario in which they say he failed. Worse, if this thing doesn't follow the liberal fearmongering path, they'll pretend it never happened and find something new to whine about in 24hrs or less...
     
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    People will still die from normal flu but now others may also die from the coronavirus. One difference is that there is a vaccine for the normal flu yet so many refuse to take it
     
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    Seems a little fishy? She had contact. If she's not in a coma they need to do whatever it takes to make her talk.
     
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    He came across well during the press conference.
     
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    That was MrTLegal, not me.
     
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    The market climbed 700 points in the last couple of hours. The drop in the last few days was due to happen anyway and the virus is just being used as the reason
     
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    Worse. There's the fear factor, and this thing doesn't belong to the flu-family of viruses. It's the SARS group (Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome). More people are going to need to be hospitalized and it's going to cut a swath through old people/immune compromised people.

    4 people from the Diamond Princess are dead now, so right there, that's a 1% mortality rate, and they all had state-of-the-art care available.
     
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    So what's the Canuk wonder boy PM in your country doing about it in your country?
     

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