Trump Dismisses CDC Warning on Coronavirus Outbreak, I dont-think its inevitable

Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by FlamingLib, Feb 26, 2020.

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  1. struth

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    Not really...when a President declares something a National Emergency is greatly increases his power over the matter, and legal limits.

    Which Swine Flu outbreak are you referring to? We haven't had anything major here since the 80s.

    The President said he had no idea what would happen, but said we were prepared and had the best folks working on it. WHich is true
     
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    What answer did he give that you have your shorts in a wad about?
     
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    What has he done to prevent the CDC from doing their job? Be specific.
     
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    IOW, Trump's opponents are not really worried about the spread of this pandemic killer - are they?
    Partisan Politics Kills.
     
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    Oh, and thanks for proving my point.
     
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    The important quantity here is R0, the basic reproduction number of the virus. It represents the number of transmissions from a single carrier:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_reproduction_number

    For COVID-19, R0 is currently not exactly known, but estimated to be between 1.6 and 6.6. Let's assume it is 4. The 60 current cases then could have infected 240 new persons, if they were not quarantined. The 240 then infect 960 in the next generation. The numbers then become 3840, 15,360, 61,440, etc. You see how quickly those numbers could get out of control, which is EXACTLY what has happened in Wuhan. The miracles of exponential growth..
     
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    Why didn't our corrupt political class and its crony capitalist allies respond to Trump's efforts to have manufacturing removed from China? Why did they choose to resist?

    Do you suppose they all cashed out before this crash? ;-)
     
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    And there it is "Short and to the point". You sir are a brave one :)
     
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    I did not attribute the link to you. I commented that everyone was either quoting it or linking to it. Your comments were strikingly similar to those of the author of the Vanity Fair piece. Whether you got your talking points from Vanity Fair or not they were based on emotion, not underlying facts concerning seasonality of viral infections. I see no need to apologize for pointing out that fact.

    Yes, we agree on what Trump said. But you dismissed it when it was based on long understood reasons viral infection rates plummet seasonally. The point we aren’t sure what will happen is valid, but saying Trump is pulling things from somewhere is absurd when his premise is based on empirical evidence. And it’s equally absurd coming from a Vanity Fair article or a practicing scientist.
     
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    You are incorrect. It is absolutely his business. Both overreacting and under reacting has its cost. There are many degrees of safe and sorry. Somewhere between ignoring it and confining everyone to their homes is the right degree. No one knows. Not even the experts.
     
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    Trumpers who are so eager to believe the conspiracy theories that Trump dreams up

    they also believe what ever spews out of Trumps " entertainment delusions " for his base to solidify around are Facts

    Now believing what Trump makes up ............. could end of killing the Trumpers

    Now that's really ironic !!
     
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    You almost sound like you relish the ideal, almost...
     
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    Scary words? LMAO! If you don't have any idea what you are talking about why do you post?
     
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    :roflol::roflol:
    Thanks rugglestx, I actually did need a good laugh today. BTW, I love a good irish whiskey too.
     
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    Still no number. Not a single one you care to provide?

    You basically said this "could get bad" without qualifying bad at all.

    Well done, your insightful input is thus valued at it's full worth.
     
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    Your better than Wonder Woman at deflecting things.
     
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    IIRC a person can be contagious for quite a long time before developing symptoms - I'd think R0 is going to be relatively large.
     
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    That is true. Which is why a measured approach is best. Does this sound measured?

    Kudlow breaks with CDC on coronavirus: ‘We have contained this’
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/25/kudlow-white-house-coronavirus-117402

    Now, since you just said "no one knows", you would have to take Kudlow to task for being so confident.

    I think he'll end up regretting that deeply. I think this is going to catch hold and kill a bunch of people here. Maybe 20,000. Maybe 100,000. We certainly don't have it anywhere near to "contained".

    What do you think? You agree with Kudlow? Do we have this "contained"?
     
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    Thanks for playing. You need to catch up on a little HS level math to keep going.
     
  20. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Yep, do we know how long it takes to show signs of the virus? That's the most important piece to the puzzle in my opinion. One new case in 2 weeks. If we don't get anymore in the next week then I would think it's all under control.
     
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    Your pointless.
     
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    I'm sure it seems that way to you.
     
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    Relax, this is the leftist Organization doooooommm & Glooooooommmm portion of the show... Numbers and stuff like that only complicate and detract from the illusionary part of the first act.. Just grab a large soda "Spike as needed" and some buttery popcorn and enjoy the fantastic production of "Death come to us, via President Trump" :)
     
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    And what a shame I'm sure you'd think that to be. Can't have normal people getting in the way of your progressive Utopia.
     
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    Noooo! It just means you're not paying close enough and reacting strong enough to leftwing propaganda! You're going to need to work on that if you're looking to be entertained man!!!!!
     

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