Can a Christian have a demon influencing them?

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Can a Christian have a demon?

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  2. Yes

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  3. Perhaps a Spirit of REligion???

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  4. I think this question is ridiculous.. there is no such thing as demons.

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  5. Maybe...... that would explain quite a few things I have seen in this life?!?!

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The first ten minutes of this video may shock a lot of people......
    and may offend a lot of people.....
    but there is a positive side to this because if even Christians can have a demon
    and can get rid of their influence..... then this can give hope to all of us.

    The invisible dimensions of space - time around us are teeming with all kinds of life forms....
    some of which are really, really, really, really, really jealous and envious of us humans.

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What Pastor Rick Joyner was shown may help to make a lot of things you have seen
    from churches seem more logical.



    http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tfq-en.html

    (Rick Joyner, The Final Quest):

     
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    I doubt that demons really exist on a physical way, demons are the most destructive part of our being, anger, greediness, ignorance, jealousy, compulsion, fear.

    Heroin, alcohol, they're "demons", things that destroy and threaten life, make us miserable, they're very real, even if they don't have any horns or any concsiousness, yet they're even more dangerous.
    So by the way, christian have many demons influencing them, like every human being.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well said..... we certainly do.......
    I admit that I could be wrong but I've read what I consider to be
    impressive evidence that some demons are departed humans who cannot
    go up into the higher dimensions of space -time in the emotional, mental, spiritual state that
    they are in at the time of their deaths.

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/george-ritchie.html#a05b

     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    What if the demon is god?
     
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    Currently I dont think demons exist. I just cannot see a creator creating demons to plague man .

    Seems too cartoonist.
     
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    Nope sorry Jesus in leaves no room for demons.

    Most people don't need demonic influence to do bad things.

    Trust in the Lord with all your heart, in all your ways acknowledge Him and HE will heep your path straight.

    The Christian life is not difficult in theory, but take your eyes off Jesus and you go sideways every time. It is God Himself that keeps us going straight all we have to do is trust and obey. Easier said than done.
     
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    Everyone can be influenced by demons - as they can by angels, but what demons can't do, is read our minds.

    I found that there are two types of demon possession. One is where it's imposed on someone through a curse, and in that case they are in a battle with the demon and need to be exorcized. The other one is where they have invited the demon in. This can happen in different ways, one is through the occult - and there are some sites on the internet. This is why there so many school killings by students.

    My daughter once saw an ad in an airplane magazine that said if you want something, just call out the name they gave. She immediately tossed it away, but I wonder how many people wouldn't do so, and thereby invite the demon in?

    Many years ago on the Pat Robertson show a woman came on who had been accosted by a man who held a knife to her throat. When she started praying the man dropped the knife and apologized to her. When someone asked why he dropped the knife and apologized, he was told that it wasn't the man that was doing it, but rather the demon inside of him. The demon couldn't continue when she started to pray.

    What I'm curious about is; if a person invites the demon in through jealousy, ambition, etc., is that person accountable for all the acts that the demon might do?
     
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    Lucifer fell because he thought himself equal to God, and 1/3 of the angels followed him. They are known as demons, and because they are prideful, they consider themselves equal to god as well.

    Don't think these demon 'gods' that were worshipped in places like ancient Greece and are still worshipped can't respond to humans and give them what they want? They can, but never if it's beneficial to that person's soul. They want your company when you die.

    Pride and disobeying God caused man's fall as well, and separated us from our Creator. When we recognize our human limitations and repent for them, then a psychological change happens within us. It's this change in our hearts and reasoning, that will eventually enable us to unite with God and enter his realm and existence.
     
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    Yep got to worship the egotistical god in order to earn it’s love and get to it’s imaginary sky palace.
     
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    Not to earn God's love, but to become pure like God so you can enter into His existence/dimension. Of course there's always the opposite dimension. Good luck!


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    I'm the father of lies that's what I be,
    who laughs at people's misery.
    To watch them as they lie and steal.
    The fools, they think they're being real..

    But fools they were and fools they'll be
    for they have eyes but cannot see,
    that gain of power, wealth and fame
    is nothing but a worldly game,

    and soon it will go 'poof' - Jeannette
     
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    So you become pure by worshipping it. Hilarious
     
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    Rick Joyner is a fruitcake.
     
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    Actually no. You become pure by recognizing your personality limitations (sins) and repenting for them. Then God will help you purify yourself through what is known as 'God's Grace'.
     
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    I've seen a demon. I don't mean recognizing it in people when they're possessed, like for instance: Adolph Hitler, Lenin, etc. But actually in someone I know well. The eyes glowed like black coal with embers. They were impossible to look at. It was so frightening, that I have never been able to look at that person's eyes again. I assume she was heavily in the occult.
     
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    A house divided against itself cannot stand. Guess it depends on what you call a Christian. He who began a good work in you will be faithful to complete it. If that work actually began......I don't believe the Holy Spirit would accomplish that by opening you up to demon possession.
     
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    That's a great name for the coronavirus. Since evolution doesn't exist the virus must be an example of divine intervention.
     
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    I heard the same description from an Indian boy that worked for me. He said he spent part of a summer with his Grandma who had him attend a Christian Camp. He loved it. When he was on the bus returning home, the person in the seat in front of him turned around with a face as you described and said "think about it if you ever decide to go there, because I will be there waiting for you". He told me that frightened him into never going back.
     
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    I see earnest discussion here by people of faith. Why do you have to pop up here like you do every time? You deter no one. It is "whack a mole time with you!"
     
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    God's ways and his thoughts are higher than your thoughts. God did not create them as what we see as demonic. They turned of their own free will. Just like you are given a choice. Without choice there IS no love, there is no improved character.
     
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    Well I would have to experience it but even then I would need evidence it was a demon . I have seen pentacostals pray demons out of people but the person who was demon possessed was faking it. Lol

    But I didnt believe ufo craft existed until I saw one up close bout 5 or 6 years ago. Me and two other people I did not know. Bout the length of 3 football fields . Couple thousand feet above the trees. No sound . No visible means of propulsion .
     
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    Still doubt if god created spirits that he already knew would be demonic and possess people.

    Why bother ? God isnt a mosochist. He is love .

    But man has attributed many things to god that they just madr mamade up imo

    The image fundamentalist have created of god is false imo. No more than a fairy tale . For who would see such a god worthy of love and worship? Only crazy people.

    Or people who fear the ending of their ego in death . Yet Christ taught salvation involves the death of that ego and being born again without the rule of the ego . So few so called Christians know salvation . They are ruled over by their egos like atheists are.

    If not worse. As Christ taught whosoever would save his soul will lose it. .
     
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    I will address your comment as I have emboldened. The rest, to me, is your own private religion. God must limit Himself in instance in order to give his Creation choice. The Pharisees railed at Jesus with the accusations, "if you are who you say you are, come down from that cross". That would have gone against His plan to restore relationship with those that choose to follow. Love required God to exact limitations over his own sovereignty. That is choice, that is love.
     
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    That intrigues me. First of all it's impossible for people in our world to travel from another planet because of the time element. Then again our time, might not be the same as that of others, but if it isn't, then they would have to be coming from another dimension - and if we're going to talk of other dimensions, then why not call them angels, demons, ghosts, etc.

    Here's something I read in the biography of Felix Yussopov - the one who murdered Rasputin. Once when he was travelling by coach at night, a train full of people passed in front of them. Felix could even see the people moving about in the train. In the meantime the horse was whining, while the frightened driver did the sign of the Cross. He told Felix there aren't any railroad tracks there.
     
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    Worse than atheists, who at least are honest, are the Christians who are involved in the church, but not quite sure if they believe. They consider themselves righteous, yet not 'fanatic' like others, and are usually the most intolerant and critical people one can meet.

    As for Christian fundamentalists, they drive me batty, but they are kind people. They just can't fully step out of themselves, and only understand God in the way they were raised and what they are accustomed to. It's a spiritual immaturity. They haven't fully grown in their faith.

    As for baptism, it gives one the potential to become a Christian as the Latin Church would say, or illuminates one towards Christianity as the Orthodox Church would say. A true Christian must acquire the Holy Spirit within them, but anyone who repents before death has opened their hearts to God so I guess all is not lost.
     
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