Corona Virus Update

Bovine excrement!

The Boomers contain the SELFISH GREED generation.

Have you forgotten the chants of "it's my money" when they were screaming for taxcuts for the wealthy?

 

Complete and utter nonsense!

Your criminal IMPOTUS is NOT following the Obama strategy.

Don't blame the Dems for the egregious FAILURE of your criminal IMPOTUS.

 

The 7 page document was referred to a few posts ago. And it clearly spelled out social distancing and quarantines. That's what we're doing. Towards tremendous costs might I add. So yes, it's their plan.

 

The South Korean approach has been very successful, but not so much because of finding better 'treatment' to reduce the mortality rate among those with the virus compared to China, but being able to contain its spread quickly and effectively, reflected in the overall number of confirmed cases from South Korea and the quick decline in the spread of the virus there. Otherwise, until there is a real treatment for the virus, the main treatments that exist aren't ones that South Korea is necessarily any better dispensing than China.

My view is that we still don't know enough about the virus to be sure about the information available to us, but based on what I have observed to date, I would not dismiss the following as being more significant indicators who will end up ill and perhaps even die from the virus compared to others:
1- the level of exposure to the virus (doctors and health care providers being in particular risk as a result of greater exposure to greater levels)
2- genetic background (besides various studies focusing on blood type, and other markers, somehow people in East Asia across the board seem to have done better in recovering from the virus than some other places).
3- of course age and compromised immune system. I mention this below the first two, merely because it has received an overemphasis even though it is still the primary risk factor. Any infection caused by virus will obviously affect the elderly and those with compromised immune systems more.
4- smoking and exposure to pollution and other things which increase risks of respiratory ailments.

Of course, some of what I mention above is merely my observation and would need to be verified based on further scientific inquiry. But I trust my "hunch" on this a bit more than I trust Trump's hunch about the virus a few weeks ago

 

Have you ever wondered how foreign countries can test so many people and we can only test the rich and famous?

 

Now you are CHERRY PICKING!

Read the ENTIRE PLAN and look at ALL of the steps that your criminal IMPOTUS failed to implement in a timely manner.

Just because we are now FORCED into one of the items mentioned in the plan DOES NOT mean that the plan has been FOLLOWED.

 

What steps haven't been followed?

 

Meh. It's the extroverts versus the introverts, the social butterflies versus the homebodies.

Trying to tell someone with high social needs to stay home for two weeks is like telling a homebody that they have to spend two weeks going to concerts, casinos, restaurants and bars every single day.

I'd also expect that people who live in small rural towns are less likely to be concerned than people who live in urban areas where people are packed together like tins of sardines. That would explain the "Republican" versus "Democrat" spin, since rural people are more likely to be conservative and urban dwellers more Democrat.

 

Did your criminal IMPOTUS recognize the Pandemic threat on 1/22/20 and take immediate steps to set up a coordinated strategy to deal it? Yes or No? Obviously he FAILED to do so because he minimized it when instead he should have ACTING on the information.

Did your criminal IMPOTUS subsequently do anything at all to set up a coordinated response with situational awareness? Yes or No? For an ENTIRE MONTH he sat on his YUUUGE orange butt and did squat! The Dem Plan calls for IMMEDIATE ACTION but it was NOT until 2/26 that he passed the buck to Pence thereby allowing the virus to gain ground and increase the odds of killing people.

Did your criminal IMPOTUS explain the SEVERITY of the situation and COMMUNICATE the appropriate measures necessary to CONTAIN the spread of the virus? Yes or No? Of course he hasn't. It is now 60 days AFTER it started and he still hasn't come up with a COHERENT MESSAGE.

Did your criminal IMPOTUS set up a CONTINGENCY PLAN if anything went wrong? Yes or No? Once again the evidence PROVES that he has ZERO LEADERSHIP in this matter.

I could go on and on but he has NOT followed anything remotely like PROTOCOL necessary to address a Pandemic.

 

People living in multigenerational households is also a factor. Italy got a double-whammy because of the legal and illegal Chinese migrants in fashion-designers' sewing sweatshops, but also and maybe more importantly, it's not uncommon for three or more generations in a family to all be living under one roof in Italy. You'd have the kids and grandkids out in school or working (plus social life) then coming home to grandma/grandpa. Social distancing would be more difficult with young and old all living in a small house.

 

I've gotten the coherent message. Staying indoors, washing my hands and helping them keep the curve down.(I mean, I utterly disagree with it as you know, but I've been listening.)

From what we know, they were tracking the virus but there really wasn't anything 'to do' until the first case got here. The response could've been a bit faster instead of initially downplaying it, but he downplayed it because he wanted to avert economic and political fears(which ended up happening anyway and far worse than anyone could've expected.)

He's going to have to set up a contingency plan IMO because this has already gone wrong, but I'm willing to wait until April 20th(my personal cut off month) to evaluate the situation.

 

Per capita rankings would be more informative (after the U.S. has more data in). China, India, and the U.S. are the countries with the highest populations, so cases per million people would be the way to look at the data.

 

“The number of confirmed cases worldwide has exceeded 200 000. It took over three months to reach the first 100 00 confirmed cases, and only 12 days to reach the next 100 000.”

https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...0319-sitrep-59-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=c3dcdef9_2

That’s pretty frightening.

 

Sally, typically viruses like this spread exponentially until 1% of the population is reached or 77 million globally. Then we'll see a gradual slowing in the spread. We can't really stop the spread but we can slow it and that is our primary goal.

 

2 to 14 days with 4 days being the average, so two weeks is the max time.

 

Yeap I can't believe people come on here and spread falsehoods with the sole purpose to cause more panic. You are right 2 - 14 days is what every major health organization is saying. Everyone knew this was going to jump and continue to go up, we'll see where we're at next week.

 

Would not use it yet.... As the public and private sectors are working together right now without using force.

No he simply said FEMA has been purchasing equipment from public companies and so can the state.. He never said that the Federal supply would not go out.. Why do you keep leaving critical information out?

Of course we cant supply the states in one day have you ever worked on logistics?

 

To your point about genetic background, I noticed from the Italian Study on links between Mortalities and Underlying Conditions that at least four of them related to conditions that largely connected with weight (hypertension, Ischemic heart Disease, Atrial Fibrillation, and diabetes).

So, perhaps, some of the discrepancy that you note could be explained by a discrepancy in the number of obese individuals within the given population of those affected.

 

Just over 3 weeks in and you are running out if medical supplies? That isn’t trumps fault.

 

To be far many key supplies were purchased at the outset of the issues in China and sent there... Then you factor in many supplies are made almost completely in ... China....

 

I made this graph based on the per capita (per million) of cases for several countries. It starts on the day that each country hit 1000 confirmed cases. I am also including one (the number in parenthesis is the total population, in the millions, for each country) with and without China (PC meaning per Capita) just because China started theirs so much earlier.

 

Sounds to me Seattle lacked a contingency stock of supplies.

 

PROVE IT!

Quote those posts that have the "sole purpose to cause more panic"!

 

And then you factor in Trump's unwillingness to purchase ventilators from China...

 

Nearly every corner of the country is about to lack a sufficient contingency stockpile of supplies