Corona Virus Update

Your evidence of this is...."Manufacturers in China aren’t able to fulfill the request"
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/healt...n-respirators-could-take-18-months-to-deliver

Rawstory and other sites turns it into...
It could take 18 months to get coronavirus respirators — because Trump won’t buy any from China
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/it...rators-because-trump-wont-buy-any-from-china/
Its like you all like being lied to.

 

Yes maybe we should go back to making things here eh?

 

I think you need to re-consider why "Manufacturers in China aren't able to fulfill the request." Here's why:

 

Easy, here's one of many, I'm not doing your homework for you. By the way where are you from again?
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/coronavirus-resource-center#COVID
Because this coronavirus has just been discovered, the time from exposure to symptom onset (known as the incubation period) for most people has yet to be determined. Based on current information, symptoms could appear as soon as three days after exposure to as long as 13 days later. Recently published research found that on average, the incubation period is about five days.

 

Help me with your chart, as an example Italy has 60 million people and 41k confirmed cases?

 

That is NOT a PF source and what you quoted is FACTUAL and NOT a "falsehood".

But thanks for establishing that you have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to substantiate your bogus allegation as usual.

 

So the number on the left accounts for the per capita basis by also reducing the numbers to a per capita, per million of people. So essentially, instead of dividing the cases by the 600,000,000, I divided each case by 600. Just to keep the numbers easier to spot in terms of the trend line. You will notice that Worldofmeters also does the same thing on their chart by tracking the number of cases per million.

To put it another way, when you see that Italy is currently ~680 on my chart, that would actually mean that the number of cases in Italy, on a per capita basis, is 0.00068

 

What the hell are you going on about. Will said " It takes 2 weeks to become symptomatic". That is not factual just like we said, it could take as few as 2 days. Read more post less is my suggestion. What country are you from again?

 

Ok thanks I was having trouble figuring out how you were condensing.

 

These are YOUR exact words;

HERE is the PF Forum where WE are posting!

YOU made the fallacious allegation above that you just FAILED to substantiate!

Not my problem if you cannot recall your own baseless allegations.

 

You're all over the place let's simplify this for you.
Do you agree with Will that symptoms don't show up until 14 days?
or
Do you agree with me that symptoms show up as early as 2 days and up to 14 days?

As simple as I can make this.

 

No amount of DEFLECTION is going to alter the FACT that you are completely and utterly UNABLE to substantiate your asinine bovine excrement allegation about other members of this forum.

Sad!

 

Overall, the Italians, along with the French and the Swiss, are considered among the slimmest people in Europe on average. In Europe, Italy was the only country where the average weight dropped.

(Source: Wikipedia)

 

Thanks! You have U.S. at 327 cases per million, but I don't see any of the lines on the chart at 327.

 

The government located over 10,000 ventilators which can be converted to medical ventilators. As of yesterday, the task force said we should have plenty to meet needs.

 

I think the number for the US is 49 per million, similar to the UK (48 ) but below most others who are among the top 10 in aggregate number of cases. On a per capita basis, the highest figures are from Italy (679), Switzerland (567) and Spain (437). Besides China (56), the rest of the countries which comprise the top 10 in aggregate reported cases have between 150-200 cases per capita reporting, although the numbers for Germany (219) and Iran (234) are slightly higher than the 150-200 range on a per capita basis.

 

.....which has been Trump's theme. Who were the idiots who thought China making all our antibiotics was a good idea.

 

500 million masks over 18 months is 27.8 million per month average. 3M is producing at 30 Million per month capacity right now.

The government started with 30 million in U.S. stockpile. The task force thanked home improvement suppliers and independent construction companies for donated/providing their N95 mask, plus booties and tyvec suits. They didn't say how many were donated, but this country comes together and can move very quickly in a crisis.

 

Italy really is suffering due to a numbers of variables.

 

No, the 327 is a reference to the US population in millions.

The US is currently (as of midnight GMT) at 42.225 per capita, per million.

 

Thanks.

To test this theory a bit further, I looked at the Obesity Rankings from this source: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2228rank.html

The US: 12th
Italy: 107
UK: 36
France: 87
Switzerland: 112
Spain: 62
Germany: 79
China: 169
South Korea: 184

So, it is still possible that obesity is a partial explanation for why Eastern Countries are handling the most severe cases better than the West, but it is by no means a factor that explains everything (as evidenced by the fact that Germany is doing much better than Italy despite being more obese).

On a related note, if obesity is tied to higher problems of mortality from this virus, then the US is suuuper ****ed.

 

Thanks again. I see....I was reading the chart wrong.

 

Not a prob, hope the chart is helpful.

 

Yes. They keep saying diabetes is a risk factor....and obesity is the risk factor for diabetes. So, that's an indirect connection.

 

Here is a shocking update. Italy. New cases 15,147 - that is new cases with a total now of 58,182 and new deaths today of 627. Shocking.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

They have lowered some of the numbers there. Not sure what is happening. Something similar happened yesterday and then they upped them but the new cases now are only 5,986 and total cases 47021. I don't think that makes sense anyway so not sure what is going on there.