Black man dies after video shows officer kneeling on neck

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  1. MissingMayor

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    Yeah, that description in the affidavit was oddly specific and misleading.

    Traumatic asphyxia refers to a traumatic event on the thorax, NOT the neck.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traumatic_asphyxia
     
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    One thing's for sure, he's not a "gentle giant", he's just a statistic, behaving as a statistic did and the odds weren't on his side that day.
     
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    No it's not, did he apply pressure all the time or ease it off when he stopped resisting? We now know that the dead man had underlying health problems which contributed to his death, the video does not tell the whole story.
     
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    "The report, conducted by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, states there were "no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation"; however, the combined effects of being pinned down by an officer as well as "his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death."

    Interesting.
     
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    Because people are saying these cops were 'racist' or even 'white supremacists' but one of them was Asian?
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

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    "eased off when he stopped resisting", as if the difference between fully planting your knee and somewhat not planting your knee is the difference between suffocation and breathing.
     
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    1. Actually the grand jury failed to indict because it was Garner's poor health which killed him when he foolishly resisted arrest. The city paid out and fired the cop as a sacrificial lamb to appease the rioting mob.

    2. No they're not, they just commit more violent crime and are punished accordingly.
     
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    Very strange and sad series of events. He should be alive today, even if he wasn't a total saint. :(
     
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    No, you can see it on the streets of Minneapolis over the last few nights,
     
  10. AmericanNationalist

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    Agreed that he should be alive, but I also think as the information comes out, a clearer and more appropriate picture comes into play. Two wrongs don't make a right, but they were both in the wrong. He was a criminal resisting arrest, going sofar as to claim he was claustrophobic. And then these officers for whatever reason, instead of driving him to the station decide the best course of action was to restrain him(and knee him while doing so) leading to his death.
     
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    1. Don't believe The Guardian for crying out loud!
    2. That's a contradiction, you can't be purposely negligent, only depraved. The question is were they criminally negligent? If they were it was only the one officer. That's manslaughter.
     
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    Officer Lane was the least experienced officer there, having only been hired the year before. Yet he expressed concern for Floyd multiple times. He is probably in the clear here.
     
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    They tried to drive him to the station. He declined to go along.
     
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    Of course it is, if I rest my knee on your neck you can breathe just fine, if I press it down you lose consciousness.
     
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    Quite true.
     
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    And? Is it standard procedure that every time an arrested suspect makes a ruckus that the police just stop what they're doing and restrain the individual? What does that even accomplish?(Besides what happened), just get him booked.
     
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    So you scream for their help when you need them but stab them in the back when they make honest mistakes.
     
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    Oh no, we "need more information". Let's just play your stupid game.

    Is water wet?

    Not sure, we need more information. Let's wait for the facts...
     
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    Murder charges not enough?

    Never let an invented crisis go to waste. Floyd's death was a fairly rare occurrence of murder-by-cop. According to the left-wing platform it "Happens all the time".

    Protests continue.

    Live:
     
  21. Reasonablerob

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    I'm quoting a previous post, I'll verify.
     
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    We don't know, we need more information.
     
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    You know what they say, BLM like facts like slugs like salt.
     
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    There Isn't Much To Defend ,,,, He Was Never Trained To Put a Knee On A Neck ,,, Any Reasonable Person Would Know It Has The Potential For Great Bodily Harm and Possibly Death ,,,, He Was Being Imobilized Probably Waiting For EMS ,,,But To Continue To Kneel On His Neck That Long Is Inexcusable and furthermore, he kept his knee there for several minutes AFTER he became unresponsive. There is no defending this. As for the underlying conditions, the corona virus killed him. :)
     
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    Murder charges without a conviction, oh yea, I'm sure the protesting will just end soon.....
    :roll:
     

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