Attention all Soldiers and Veterans

It is evident to all of us who are paying attention that the left surely does.

 

Ok, so why are you writing your support for an OP that asked for just that?

 

There can be no infringement on the right to own firearms and the right to free speech.

 

Hmm.. I don't suppose it ever occurred to you that folks like Mattis are expressing their views, no? To suggest they are "making it clear that the military does not stand behind the man", is, well.... quite a stretch, and frankly not one that you can credibly make.

I wonder though, here you are calling out for violence, nay, the active use of violence against a president. One wonders how long it will take for the secret service to start knocking on your door.

 

What, truly is your intent here? Are you actively trying to incite military folks into a coup? That seems remarkably close to a federal criminal act.

 

I watched the horror the "CBS News special report" this morning when they were gobsmacked by the drop in unemployment in this country. Concerned, almost crying... as they understood that their little coup was going to fail. Yes, these folks are the enemy of the united states. They hate this country, they have the success of this nation, and they actively work against it daily, hour by hour non stop using their media as the platform to deliver their hate.

 

I agree. I also agree that the rest of the bill of rights also needs to be respected, and not allowed to be ignored when it is convenient to do so when the left decides to attempt a political coup in this nation.

 

"Marine Gen. John Allen: Trump's threats of military force may be 'the beginning of the end of the American experiment'"
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/john-allen-trump-protests-george-floyd/index.html

Former Defense Sec William Cohen [Republican] just stated on CNN that under trump, we are heading towards a dictatorship.

Right now, trump is putting up a barricades and a fence around the white house. We didn't even see this during 911. The protesters are being called terrorists.

This is what petty dictators do.



The mayor of DC is asking trump to remove Federal forces from his city.

 

Any president who calls the press the 'enemy of the people' is the enemy of the people.

The only thing standing between tyranny and a free people, is not your stupid gun, it IS the free press.

"The pen is mightier than the sword", shall always be an irrefutable truth.

 

You have no proof that the dossier is a fraud. You have accusation but no proof that anyone on Trump's staff was framed.

To shut down the press would be unconstitutional. You want Trump to shut down the free press just because his opinion is that they lie? That is unconstitutional.

You want to talk garbage fine. Watch the video of your boy using the Holy Bible as a TV prop for his propaganda machine.

You talk about abuse of free speech so proof e it.

Free speech is not a privilege it is a Constitutional right. Yes I remind you that virtually every right has a duty not to trample on the rights of others. So show we're the media has trampled on the rights of others.

Just because you or Trump may not like the truth that does not mean that mean that all criticism is a lie.

Did you not notice that just about everyone who was fired or pushed out of the WH or the State or Defense department had spoken truth to power!

 

Do not ever accuse me or any other member here of either not being in the the military or not being a veteran or not being a retired member of the military. You appear to accuse of not being a re tired member or not in the military because why? I will tell you why! Because you disagree with evand are not willing to intellectually debate!

If you remember UCMJ classes you will remember that we have the fight to challenge an illegal order. Yes you better be right in your challenge or you will pay dearly for but you have that right. Noe you must have noticed that I went back at you with truth and and ,ogives I did not not accuse you of not being in the military or a Vet just because I disagree with you.

Again I say to you do not ever accuse me of not being in the military just because you and I disagree on something. I only debate with honorable people.

 

After Trump made his military threats, the number of protestors increased. A lot of the graffiti is anti Trump.

 

It is not as much flyover country as it is came from country. Over the past 50-60 years there has been a brain drain from the breadbasket to the cities, where the action is. Grandma and cousins Joe-Joe and Katy-Sue may still live in Nebraska or Kansas, but most the family has moved on. It is what has made places like Portland so liberal. The bright kids left the farm and went to college.

 

They introduced tasers to keep the police from shooting so many people. Now the police abuse people by unnecessarily tasing them.

 

And you fail to believe the evidence! It's accumulating to the point of overwhelming, but like a small kid with sitting in the puddle of chocolate syrup- some people will continue to deny they know anything about it. That doesn't look smart, and nobody believes it who's not trying to dodge the reality.

Of course, I don't want to shut down the press; I DO want to hold it accountable for reporting facts instead of inventing them and spoon feeding them mindless idiots.
Fabricating fraudulent stories and conspiring against the nation IS NOT A PRIVILEGE OF FREE PRESS.
Speaking the truth- THE WHOLE TRUTH- is always acceptable to me, whether it's what I want to hear of not.


For a country to remain free- it MUST face all the truth, and it must reject the hogwash of the haters.

 

Oh poor wittle me.

Seems to be that Republican ideology dictates that liberals are always playing the victim. Surely Trump, the bestest greatest president ever can’t be a victim. Is he not supposed to be an alpha male and all that silliness. Surely you must be mistaken.

 

Has he not already declared war on American citizens? That it is the top military who is stopping him.

 

1) thank you for your service
2) I don't think you can sway veteran's to vote for the side that wants to totally de fund the military
and then there is this:

• Today, President Trump signed a presidential memorandum that ensures our totally and permanently disabled veterans obtain the Federal student loan debt discharges they are entitled.
• Only half of the roughly 50,000 disabled veterans who are qualified to have their Federal student loan discharged have received this entitled benefit.
• The process by which our disabled veterans apply for Federal student loan discharges is too burdensome.
• The memorandum directs the Secretaries of Education and Veterans Affairs to develop a new expedited process to help totally and permanently disabled veterans have their Federal student loan debt discharged with minimal burdens.
• Also, in 2017, President Trump signed into law the Forever GI Bill, allowing individuals to access their veteran educational benefits at any point in during their lifetime.
  

• The President signed into law the Veterans Affairs (VA) Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act, making it easier to fire failing VA employees and support whistleblowers.
  • Since, the VA has fired more than 7,600 employees who have failed our veterans and has instituted reforms to increase efficiency and decrease abuse.
• VA healthcare is now significantly better than when President Trump was elected, with trust in VA outpatient health care now close to 90%.

That list is not even a fraction of what this administration has done for vets but I think its rude to make super large posts in someone else's thread

There is also the fact that the left hates white men, especially OLD WHITE MEN, which makes up most of the vets.
Long story short, i'm not sure that you can sway vets to jump on the hate Trump bandwagon

 

Rules being what they are, active service military cannot make political statements. As has been the case in the past, there were most likely several top brass who called up retired generals to make statements for them. Mattis is just one as I think there are four others that have made similar statements.

The problem is that when protestors formed outside the White House, Trump ran to the underground bunker. When it was revealed in the news the next day, he felt like the media was making fun of him. So in order to show how strong he was, he had peaceful protestors cleared out using flash grenades and teargas with a heavy military police presence. And then he walked to a boarded up church to hold up a Bible for a photo OP.

 

You have the right to your opinion. Since my I find your opinion to be motivated strictly by politics and I perceive a tinge of hatred of the media I of course do not take it seriously.

 

Trump is the target, not a victim. So good that a man with thinner skin was not elected.

 

In another post you claimed that Obama fired Mattis. Not so since Mattis retired and Trump did not fire Mattis , Mattis resigned.

I do not have to believe anything that is thrown up as factual until and unless I see solid proof. Example I do not buy those Deep State accusations. If fact this is off topic BUT a perfect example. A county GOP chief is being asked to resign because she posted filth online claiming that the George Floyd death was an acting job perpetrated the the DEEP STATE. You want me to believe you when you accuse the media of being the enemy of the state. Which state, the Deep State. LOL! You present no proof. Keep your foolish chocolate syrup stories to yourself.

 

The argument that we owe our rights and freedoms to our military is often said as if it is irrefutable. Yet if one thinks about it, there was no war where women gained the right to vote, no battle that enabled homosexuals to marry each other. The Constitution came long after the War of Independence had ended. The Bill of Rights, later even still.

There are no individual rights or freedoms that were won by military action. One might say the Civil War freed the slaves, but the Civil War only established the Federal government’s supremacy over the states. It was legislative action, ultimately that gave the slaves their freedom. And legislative action a hundred years later that gave them equal rights.

I make the argument that philosophers are far more responsible for us having the rights and freedoms that we have, than the military. Start talking about rights and freedoms, and most engaged people will talk about philosophers and their philosophies. And not about generals and their strategies.

 

Isn’t it weird reading his posts? The irony of it and all.

 

Does it ever tire you to write this kind of demonstrably false narrative? To actively lie about circumstances? Just to be crystal clear here. A president doesn't "run to the bunker". They are usually bodily moved there by the secret service. It is, of course, published policy by the secret service understandably to inform would be invaders of the futility of their intent to try to breach the WH. But sure, you're willing to describe it this way because you probably think it might sway someone into believing your lie. Again, laughable.

Tell me again, why was the church "boarded up"? did it have anything to do with the violence previous protestors might have instigated damaging said "boarded up church"? That seem super problematic for folks, like you, who can so easily be undone by the footage your own pet media published that entirely undercuts your now futile attempts to mischaracterize the facts.