18 murders in 24 hours: Inside the most violent day in 60 years in Chicago

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  1. Oh Yeah

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    I guess he's waiting for a call from the mayor or state. Oh wait. They don't want his help, they can mishandle it by themselves like they always have. Meanwhile back on the streets......
     
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    It's called "Stop and Frisk" and it worked miraculously in New York City.

    It worked so well, the leftists hated it, and they quickly scrapped it as soon as they got the power to do so.
     
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    I never knew that Trump is so weak, another campaign promise broken
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Trump told you what his great secret plan was?
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    How disappointed are you that Trump isn't more tyrannical and authoritarian?
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    It's not a secret. The leftists just wish it was, because it works so amazingly well.
     
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    Trump is clearly all talk and no action, nationally and internationally. The world is laughing at Trump, but he's very entertaining to us on the other side of the world
     
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    I never knew that Chicago was in New York
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    How sad does it make you that Trump isn't the warhawk, and literally-Hitler dictator, that you wish he was?

    How bitter is your disappointment?
     
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    Trump has made the US a laughing stock
     
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    They're two different places. Chicago never instituted aggressive Stop and Frisk procedures, like NYC did, which is why the violence and crime levels have remained at insane levels in Chicago.
     
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    Which disappoints you, because you wanted him to be the terrifying, bloodthirsty warhawk of your leftists fantasies, right?

    Which warhawk action did you want Trump to take more? A military invasion coup of Venezuela, or a war with Iran?

    Which was the bigger disappointment?
     
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    I'm sure there is. I looked for a tread on this and didn't see one. It was my oversite. I would take this one down but n
    Yeah, I bet you guys can hardly wait to install Mr. Bumbles in the White House. Hey Joe! What we gonna do about that Chicago problem? I'm gonna take them boys behind the woodshed and beat 'em like a drum. I Think that's what I'm going to do. Is that what I'm going to do Jill?
     
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    So Trump told you that his secret plan for Chicago was stop & Frisk? What a genius he must be !
     
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    It’s common knowledge if you’re willing to accept the reality of how well it worked for NYC.

    Are you willing to accept reality?
     
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    If black leaders cared about black crime they would acknowledge it. They DO NOT!!!! Democrats know the game. Ignore the problem and blame white people so black people will vote for you. Acknowledge the problem and you’re racist. Sure has helped hasn’t it. If Democrats were helping why is there still such a disparity in poverty, schools IN DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED CITIES AND STATES. Decades of control and little progress! That’s the Republicans fault eh? White mans fault? When the cities police delta are run by Black people. When cities are actually run by BLACK PEOPLE, you’re still going to blame white people or the mythical all controlling “Right”. Give it up already. Democrats have failed black people since hello, We’re having this debate still. Wake up!
     
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    Not so silly. The entire point is that white lives have always mattered and black lives have not mattered so much to hardly matters. That's how you end up with a white cop being protected by his buddies slowly lynching a black man to death in an almost 9 minute disgusting public ordeal. It happened before a lot too. So you can spare me the details of that's just "an incident". I dunno how you're unaware of that. Didn't you get that memo?

    Sure. There are armed mobs making white people do this. whatever.

    The protesters and looters are not the same. That's unlike that most cops are the same. They would back each other up no matter what. Hence we had the situation that one gets to lynch a black man while his buddies make sure the job gets don thoroughly. It's systematically to be found around the US.

    They attacked the press all over the country. When 2 cops get in trouble for knocking an elderly in a hospital with a cracked skull, and everybody else than quits the job.... The police showed their true colors often enough. Enough is enough.

    The Taliban tore down statues of a religious figure expressing peace and inner growth. Them BLM tear down statues that express a fanatic support of racism and oppression from the apartheid era. And I can tell you: it does not surprise me one bit that supporters of apartheid and racism come up with this fake comparison. Your idea that BLM wants to just forget about the slavery and apartheid is a joke. A very shallow joke.

    You're just ignoring the institutionalized racism that is present in the US police force. All them statistics of the FBI prove that it's there.
     
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    I spent most of my life around lower middle class to poor whites, including what would be called trailer trash. And I don't recall anyone murdering anyone.

    Police respond to 250 million 911 calls per year. The number resulting in the Police killing someone questionably is one ten thousandth of one percent. And the majority of those killed are white.
     
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    Because statistics. Just remember. They’re racist. Never forget it;)
     
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    18 dead in one day and you are trolling about Trump..... Shows an obsession....
     
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    Stop dodging the topic and answer it. This isn't about Trump, this is about right now, BLM is turning this country upside down because they claim black lives matter, yet nothing is said about the mass numbers of those murdered in black cities. You can't defend this, so you deflected to Trump. BLM is a huge FRAUD.
     
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    Democrats would rather wreck the nation and try to blame it on Trump so as to win a election, than to have a fair election and risk losing on the merits, or lack thereof, of their position.
     
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    Trump made a campaign promise to significantly reduce the number of murders in Chicago within one week as soon as he becomes President, have you conveniently forgotten that lie? And what has he achieved - the most violent day in Chicago in 60 years
     
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    1. Slavery was, and in some cases still is, always been a part of mankind's history. Portugal was the first nation to buy slaves out of Africa. Spain brought slaves to the New World Islands in 1502. The 1st slave ship to America was in 1619. They were not considered slaves but were indentured servants and many were whites.

    2. It was not until 1655 that slavery became legal and that the first legally sanctioned slave owner was a Negro Anthony Johnson, who also was a former indentured servant. The first slave's name was John Casor. (I have never seen or heard of a monument to him)

    3. It was not until 1670 that whites, blacks and Indians could own slaves. So slavery was not systemic racism.

    4. In 1830 there were 3775 free black people who owned 12,700 slaves. Not systematic racism.

    5. In 1838 -39 when the Creek, Choctaw and Chickasaw Indians moved west they brought along about 3500 black slaves. Not systematic racism.

    6. 1861 -1865 - Civil war over the slavery issue. Approximately 750,000 deaths. Both pro and anti slavery. Not systematic racism.

    7. In 1865 black and white abolitionist worked to pass the 13th amendment to abolish slavery. Not systematic racism.

    Not that racism doesn't exist but all through our history, men with moral standards, have fought and died to overturn unjust laws. It is one of the great parts of our Constitution that we are a Republic, which means that the rights of the minorities have a right to re-dress. Not violently but through the courts, voting booth and legislatures. We have had a system that has had aspects of racism but is not inherently systematic racism. Otherwise no laws would be created to right wrongs of the past.
    Systematic racist government's do not pass laws like fair housing, busing for integration, voting rights, redistricting for minority participation, safety net programs, etc.
     
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    And he signed into law a Criminal Justice Reform bill,,

    What have the Democrats done over the decades to take on the gangs responsible for most of the murders?
     
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