18 murders in 24 hours: Inside the most violent day in 60 years in Chicago

I've asked this a couple of times before and no one has attempted to take a crack at the answer. Maybe you can help.

What's the difference between self policing, and the behavior of chicago gangs? You said yourself they are enforcing their own set of laws independently of the local police. Chaz wants to completely dismantle the police force. How would their policy end in a different outcome than what we see taking place in Chicago?

 

Hah. I know. If only I could remember that, these things wouldn't puzzle me when they pop up. And life would be so much easier.

 

Yea libs burning down cities, removing art, taking over cities, and running schools where most minorities can't even read or write properly when and if they graduate has America looking good. You guys crack me up, your BS is so thick you have forgotten reality.

 

Its gotta be white people shooting up black neighborhoods, its just gotta be....................cries the justice warriors.

 

Try writing a coherent sentence! We are all laughing at the US who elected an imbecile

 

Try using some comprehension someday.

 

Oh, so why don't you explain what is meant by "has America looking good" mean or is the USA not great (again)?

 

Why should I do that?

 

No rational person would conclude I’m having a stroke, that is simply a personal attack since your argument lacks any substance.

The fear of white supremacy built by years of false narratives is driving this change. I oppose bad change, as do most reasonable people. The left is bringing about a rise in racial divide with false narratives like white privilege, so yes like any reasonable person I oppose it.

incorrect, I hold people accountable for thier actions and lack there of. The blm community isn’t directing its anger and frustration in the correct direction. The stats don’t support your or thier claims.

yes it is an extreme minority regardless of your pointless personal anecdote. This is a statistical fact.
I’m not minimizing anything, I’m treating it with exactly as much concern as statistics suggest a reasonable person should.

The reason isn’t no guns, it’s culture in Ireland that doesn’t ultimately encourage it. Your attack on guns simply doesn’t hold any water. My example effectively demonstrated this. It’s not guns contributing to murder rate, it’s culture.

Poverty isn’t causing it either, it’s culture. If it were poverty causing it you would see white crime and murder rates skyrocket.

it was the govt led programs that made these problems worse. This is an objective fact if you actually look at the data and not blindly listen to emotional anecdotes.

 

Lol the most violent day in so long, and it’s coming
at a time like this.

anyone really shocked?

dem politicians and the msm have so much blood on their hands

 

LOL You have no clue what his post means either!

 

Evidently nor do you.

 

Every so often we have these events where everybody falls over themselves to appease the black leaders. Corporations write big checks to black college's and the NAACP and the Jacksons Rainbow Coalition and the Sharpton's of the world. I have no idea how long it has been going on before 1965. So what are the results? A couple more voter registration sites? Pay a few people to go out and register Democrats? So here it is 55 years later and are the neighborhood better? Safer? High paying jobs with new businesses that moved into the inner cities? Business is more than happy to be coursed into writing a one time check. Phew! Got that over with. They would rather do that than move a factory into an area that has a high crime rate, a poor school system, a skill-less labor pool and a poor transportation system. Take away the police department and you will never get new business. Business is not going to move from a city with a high rating of amenities into a city that offers nothing. It is not their responsibility to come in and refurbish cities. Recovery is going to be a long road but it will start the people themselves. When the students ready the teacher will appear.

 

Well yes, that's why I used the word either in my post you quoted!

 

Black leaders have been acknowledging the problem for years. Obama spoke several times about it. Jesse Jackson talked about it so much other black leaders told him to cool it. Here's Rev. Al bringing it up:http://www.msnbc.com/politicsnation/watch/investigating-chicago-crime-289207875791
Black churches decry it. There have been several stop the violence marches in my city. Sounds like a case of confirmation bias because everyone acknowledges that there is way too much inner city gun violence. What has the Republicans have to offer? Looser gun laws? More of a police state? More incarcerations? Not good selling points to the black community. Poverty and loose gun laws are to blame not "whites".

 

Question:

If white people don't know how black people feel, then how do black people know how white people feel?

 

The patients are running the clinic. It's absurd they're all talking about reforming the Police. How about reforming the people of Chicago, Minneapolis, Seattle, and every Democrat run, inner city, in the nation, along with the Democrat party and the left wing media instead. There is much right with our nations Police, and very little with the lawless leftist mobs infesting this nation. They are headed towards total destruction.

 

Dismantling the police force may be the feel good move to some but it is ignorant BS. More, what can be done is less concentration on arrests and more on community engagement. Maybe seeing a guy drunk and asleep in his car at a Wendys should be allowed to go home ticketed and have his car towed at his expense is enough rather than attempted arrest and death?

I think I was worried about your blood pressure because of your use of upper case and exclamation points.

Now I am a little confused BLM is being pandered to out of fear and that fear is a fear of white supremacy? Is that your argument? Maybe you are aware that millions now have protested, of all races, to show their support of BLM. In support of humane treatment of people of color. That's all and you have a problem with that?

The black community considers it a significant problem and you say it is insignificant. I'd say that is the definition of minimizing a communities opinion.

A tool designed to kill humans in the hands of the lawless, no matter the culture, won't increase the murder rate? Illogical.

And again, you blame the symptoms as the cause of the disease and I tried to help you. Willful ignorance seems to be a stubborn thing.

 

Well that was a very huge jump in logic from uppercase and exclamation points to high blood pressure lol.

My argument is that BLM is being pandered to with the use of false narratives that are just that...false. The belief that white supremacy is a thing worth fearing in 2020 in complete nonsense. The idea that white people are privileged is a "feel good" narrative with zero substance to it, serving only as an F you to white people more so than an actual attempt to find root causes of issues in the black community. I have no problem with the humane treatment of anyone, however thats not what these RIOTS are about nor is that what the false narratives are claiming. The false narratives claim black people are likely to be killed by police for jsut walking down the street. This is a statistical anomaly, yet is portrayed as the norm. The narratives claim that white people are mistreating black people at astounding rates, but statistically it happens far more often in the reverse. The false narratives claim that black people are largely in the societal position they are because of racism and police, and again that is not at all what the data suggests. They are there because of culture.

The black community considers it a significant problem because of emotion, driven by false narratives. Not because the statistics suggest as much. Its not minimizing it at all, its simply looking at the reality of the situation.

Whats illogical is a believing that tool isn't also being used to defend peoples lives and property. Whats illogical, is to believe that is the problem, and not the culture. You have no answer for my example, because it completely proves you wrong. Your narrative simply doesn't hold water.

Im not blaming the symptoms, you are incorrectly labeling them symptoms instead of causes. This has been disproved as you can look at the white crime rate in similar poverty rates and its not at all the same. You aren't trying to help me, you are trying to peddle false information as true. Your own stubbornness is the problem, as while so many believe your false narratives the actual causes go unfixed and completely unaddressed. As for willful ignorance, you are projecting.

 

I just came across this right now... you just won the internet with this post. Thank you.

 

Wow! Really a good point.

 

Thanks for re-posting that roorooroo

 

Incorrect a lack of morals and a tendency toward violence is the root cause.

 

But Chicago has incredibly-strict gun laws though.

 

Here in Florida after we passed our concealed carry law instead of the media predicted wild west shootouts and blood running in the streets, our violent crime levels went down substantially.

A disarmed population is a venerable population, the anti-gunners and their ludicrous plans turn ordinary people into victims by leaving criminals the only ones armed and now the latest move is to disarm the police which would have a disastrous result.

A disarmed officer is not going to get involved when there are armed criminals committing crimes, they will wait until the criminals move on and then move in a take reports.