Biracial woman, 18, in Wisconsin says white men called her N-word, set her on fire

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  1. Kranes56

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    My response is the same, why are you assuming innocence or guilty in the first place? You're not investigating this, at best you're a keyboard detective with too much time to spare. You're not part of any investigative team on this matter, and if you were and publicly discussing these details? That's wrong in of itself. Just show some compassion to her, it doesn't matter what the judicial process is, what's happened in the past, or this is made up or not. She says she is a victim, so acknowledge that and ask for justice to be done. Listen to her and treat her as a victim of a crime. Offer words of comfort, be nice to her. It's just basic decency. Why can't you extend that to her?
     
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    o_O

    Hoax.
     
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    It doesn't matter. Show compassion and listen.
     
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    :roflol:

    Hitler suffered too!

    Peoplez need to be compassionate & whatnot!

    :roflol:
     
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    Of course people need compassion. Why do you think we're here now? It's because people lacked compassion to those suffering around them.
     
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    Expressing doubt isn't horrible when presented with incoherence. The compassion comes when the evidence supports the story. And the incoherence is ironed out.

    If not for the other Lefty hoaxes, raced based some people would not be skeptical. Whose fault is that?

    If she is telling the truth and we know it that is the time to act like it happened and and she is a victim of hate and racism. But when you don't know if it happened due to incoherence and the left trying to hoax Americans quite often to question it on a political forum is gonna happen and nothing wrong with that.

    You know very well why past hoaxes from the left is the cause for delaying voicing compassion. Put some blame on them why don't cha. Instead you chide the skeptics for not voicing what you want to hear.
     
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    You're not the person deciding this, don't be an armchair detective. You don't have all the facts in the investigation and yet you're going to assume blame based on next to nothing. It doesn't matter what's happened in the past because that's literally a fallacy. Just show compassion and acknowledge her as someone who has gone through something.
     
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    I always wait for more details on cases like these

    look at this White Christian trying to promote Christianity with her lies

    "Acid attack victim: fearful, but grateful"

    http://www.columbian.com/news/2010/sep/02/acid-attack-victim-i-could-hear-sizzling/

    "A Christian, Storro returned throughout the half-hour to her profound belief that God is watching over her.

    She points to the sunglasses — credited with saving her eyesight — that she bought 20 minutes before the incident as a sign of divine presence.

    “For some reason, I had this feeling I needed to buy sunglasses,” Storro said inside a conference room at the Oregon Burn Center at Legacy Emanuel in Portland. “That’s Jesus, for sure.""

    I just like to give these a few days to see what happens
     
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    I've been here long enough to know you're for real, so bless you. :)
     
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    When someone is making major media headlines, they become a public figure. At that point people will become "armchair detectives" with a variety of opinions on the news story.. One person doesn't get to direct others' opinions.
     
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    lol thanks. I'm just here because I'm ignoring my real world problems.
     
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    No, no they don't. That's just flat out no.
     
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    So again, you are making another false accusation, yet accusing the woman without any evidence.

    Once again you rationalize due to politics, how honorable !!!!

    BTW, the right, you especially, get caught taking the bait, on plenty of false stories. You are one of last to be preaching about dishonest stories.
     
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    Lol.. We are all arm chair detectives . To believe her involves you being one too. Bet you believed smollet and had had sympathy and compassion for that damned liar even as his lie made things worse in race relations. Well many people now hold off doing that for obvious reasons. No one wants to be a fool. And people feel compassion naturally if they know it isn't another hoax from the usual suspects.

    But if people see incoherence in the story and they know the left create race based hoaxes, to hold off voicing sympathy isn't bad nor horrible.

    In our times and environment to demand what you want is utterly unrealistic. And virtue signaling IMO.
     
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    Sweetie, I haven't said if she is telling the truth or not. All I have done is tell people to stop being armchair detectives and be nice. It has nothing to do with if she is telling the truth or not. It's just basic compassion. If you think it's virtue signaling, then you don't get it. We have to be compassionate to people if we want to heal. If a crime occured we have to heal. If one didn't happen, we still have to forgive. It doesn't matter, because we have to be compassionate to other people.
     
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    The problem is if it is proven to be a hoax, the damaged caused by the person causes a great deal of harm to the community. But, I am 50/50 on this one. I won't accuse or agree until the authorities can prove her claim. Hope she gets help either way albeit justice for any crimes against her to the fullest extent or mental help/jail time for alleged lies.
     
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    Since when do Xray Techs diagnose burns and bruises?
     
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    Can you forgive her if she wasn't telling the whole truth? That's compassion.
     
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    That's the worst burn I have ever seen. She failed worse than Adam Schiff. and he excels at being a total failure at everything.
     
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    As long as she gets either mental institutional help and/or jail time, I can forgive her. But, if she did hurt the community or cause innocent people harm with her actions, she deserves one or the other. But, I won't hold any animosity for her if she did commit a crime and gets help. I am not against people who serve their time after committing crimes ever. I have met many good people who did their time and moved on to productive lives. Everyone deserves a second chance.
     
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    Why does she need to go to jail? No punishment, nothing. Just forgive in of itself.
     
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    IF she commits a crime that harms the community, a person should not be capable of no repercussions. If that ends up 60 days in jail, then 60 days in jail will make her think twice from creating lies. I leave that up to the professionals. But, I think a good mental health scenario for 60-90 days would work better. Never would I agree that she gets off free with a "please don't lie again."

    If someone claimed you as an innocent person were a child molester and the entire community became hostile towards you. Every time you went out in public, people harrassed you and your children get beat up in school. Would you forgive the accuser and just hope they wouldn't try to ruin someone elses lives? Because, with no repercussions, that person is free to do it to someone else they don't like.
     
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    The thing is, while you are correct that compassion should be a default response and usually is, what we have is a narrative being played out where the story the victim is telling doesn't match up with known facts about what SHOULD happen given the circumstances she's described. Also, given the number of hoax crimes in the news lately, it's also entirely reasonable and totally expected that people would tend to doubt her. I don't have to remind you what happened in THIS thread where you had posters sure Jussie had been attacked only for some of them to eat their words - meanwhile the skeptical posters who were proven right were raked across the coals by the posters sure Jussie was telling the truth. And because of all the race crime hoaxes out there, doubt rather than suspicion is now the norm. Heck, remember when we had a poster bet a hundred bucks a white Trump supporter burned down a church only to find out it was a black member of the congregation? He still owes me as hundred bucks.

    In fact, I think the fact that certain posters haven't chimed in yet regarding this topic is telling. We usually have a poster who revels in blaming stuff like this on Trump, and yet he isn't here. I think the LACK of certain messages on this thread says as much as the actual messages themselves.

    Bottom line is that while you are right, you're also overlooking the overwhelming number of stories where the press ran with a fake narrative only to get caught and not trying to understand that when race-baiters cry wolf one too many times, you're gonna get this as a result and you should also accept that.
     
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    More importantly. did she drop her subway sammich?
     
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    We need more detectives given partisans lie as do politicians and govt. Otherwise we become far too gullible and utter fools.

    I doubt any intelligent person will indulge what you want..

    They will express what you want once the facts get rid of skepticism that the left have created given the never ending race driven hoaxes...or harmful and destructive lies the left is becoming known for.
     
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