Intelligence on Russian bounty plot was included in the President's Daily Brief earlier this year

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  1. Egoboy

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    Correction... there is no proof YOU will accept...

    The jury is still out, but I'll go with our Intel communities over the Russian Spokesmans "Bullshit" claim....

    A bounty, by definition, normally requires a proof of kill to collect your fee...
     
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    Other than the part about NATO being briefed and responding while our POTUS wasn't and/or didn't?

    No, that's about it... I understand news like this needs to be slowly spoon-fed to the alt-right...
     
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    Then we need to keep them up. But, countries like Germany that support Russia's shenanigans should have to pay a price, are they part of Nato or not.

    Trump defunded the WHO for that reason. Take Crimea up with our NATO partners.

    I don't care what the rest of the world does unless they attack us. China can be dealt with. Do you know how much of their crap the U.S. buys? What would happen if we cut out buying and have the stuff we buy from them hecho en Mexico? All of North America wins.
     
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    Anonymous sources should never be believed. Would you buy a car from a guy wearing a rubber mask? I doubt it.
     
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    After all the lies the Fake News Times has told to discredit Trump based on unnamed sources, is anyone really dumb enough to fall for this again?

    Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe said in a statement Saturday night that neither Trump nor Vice President Pence “were ever briefed on any intelligence alleged by the New York Times in its reporting yesterday.”

     
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    There has to be proof of a target.
     
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    It's why they have to keep trying.

     
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    Ratcliffe (another Trump stooge) would never lie.
    (sarc)
     
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    Dirty Donny Bonespurs, apparently.
     
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    Did they say not credible, or not fully verified?

    There’s a difference.
     
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    If you’re point is that there’s no business so no leverage, then it’s also true there’s no downside in criticising Putin. But trump doesn’t. Even after this story, he’s running cover for Putin by calling the story a hoax.
     
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    if it’s not verifiable it’s not credible.

    much like most of the dem lies
     
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    yes he hasn’t been critical of putin over some unverifiable rumors from the NY Times
     
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    NATO responded by looking into it. Our military responded by increasing the security somewhat. Where is the significance?
     
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    IIRC they used the words not fully verified which has the same level as not credible enough to mention it to the president.
     
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    So unverifiable that NATO allies were warned.
    And not unverifiable. Just not 100% confirmed.
     
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    wow NATO found nothing...no wonder the president wasn’t even briefed
     
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    NATO reviewed and found nothing. No wonder the President wasn’t even briefed
     
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    If that were the test, no president would ever get briefed on anything.
     
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    no president is ever briefed on unverifiable rumors.
     
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    You keep using that word unverifiable. It is wrong.

    I am genuinely astounded that so many people who probably think of themselves as conservatives, don’t care about the lives of American servicemen and women, in the basis that there is some uncertainty over the confidence in the intelligence.

    Obama was briefed on bin Laden’s location. There was not 100% certainty. Despite that - and the disagreement of some of his cabinet - he ordered the raid.
    If we applied the standard that you are suggesting, he never would have been briefed. He would never have had the opportunity to weigh the options.
     
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    of course i care...that’s why i am glad intel community, DOD and Nato looked into it and i’m happy to hear there wasn’t anything to support the rumors.

    the intel on bin laden’s location was supported and verified.
     
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    Post a link showing that “intel community, DOD and Nato looked into it and ... there wasn’t anything to support the rumors”. I dare you.
     
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    Why would our military respond to a hoax??
     
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    I was wondering who you were responding to, but I had to click "show ignored content" to see...

    My recommendation is not to waste your time...

    :)
     
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