Tell me the numbers are not inflated

Watch this video, they straight admit if a person had covid at the time of death, it did not matter what actually killed them it is counted as a covid death. Watch the video please before denying it, it's not very long.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=3151129788277372

 

The numbers aren’t inflated.

There. Pretty simple. And I didn’t even have to watch a straw man video.

 

Just keep your head in the sand, these are Goverment officials straight up telling you how they count them. Enjoy the ignorance denial creates, willfully. The worst kind.

 

Yes keep my head in the sand. Sure. It reminds me something the WHO said about testing. You can’t explain the spikes in covid 19 to increased testing alone. The numbers don’t match.

Though to be fair, did anyone die from HIV and AIDS in the 1980s? Or did people die from complications from AIDS?

 

Until you watch the video, there is no reason to conversate in this thread. Aids and Covid are not the same.

 

Is the guy in the video a doctor, confirmable, someone who studies viruses? What are the videos qualifications to make these claims? I don’t care what some video says until they can establish themselves as an expert in the field they are talking about.

 

They are Government officials, it does not require a doctor to discuss how death rates are tallied. If you take two minutes from your busy day, you can discuss it in an informed manner rather than your un informed denial.

 

The person criticizing the tallying? Is that person a doctor? Because my HIV/AIDS argument counters your argument easily. The only way you can salvage that? Is if you have a medical experiment saying this is wrong.

 

You simply refuse to watch it, dont you? They straight up admit it does not matter what the cause of death, if they had covid they put that on the death certificate. No matter if the death was clearly caused by something distinctly unrelated and again, trying to compare an auto immune disease to a respiratory virus is silly.

 

Because people don’t die from the auto immune disease, they die from the respiratory viruses they get from the weakened system! This is not a controversial idea. This how we think about things like alcoholism, despair, drugs, etc. let’s look at this another way. Covid 19 scars lung tissue which in turn leads to lung disease that kills people. Would that person be counted as dying from covid 19 or lung disease? This is why your video needs to establish themselves as an expert. It’s the only way to counter these arguments.

 

If you are not willing to watch it, we have nothing more to discuss in this thread.

 

If you can’t justify why your video is worth watching when relying on an argument from authority then don’t make that argument.

 

Watch it or go away.

 

The man is none other than my beloved Gov, JB Prickst…., uh, I mean Pritzker. Yes, Illinois has confirmed if you are Covid positive at time of death, than it is marked as a Covid death. Even if you spent your entire life stuffing your face with the best pizza in the world, weighed 500 lbs, and your heart exploded. Covid positive means covid death.

And it is absolutely not debatable!!!!! ….. that Chicago proper has the worlds best pizza, hands down!

 

It is problematic in Florida as well. The joke here now is that even if you die in a car wreck, they'll count it as COVID, because you were probably distracted or distraught thinking about COVID, rofl.

 

https://wgntv.com/news/wgn-investig...s-caused-by-coronavirus-we-asked-the-experts/
Does that mean officials are overestimating the number of coronavirus-related deaths?

Even if some deaths are being incorrectly attributed to COVID-19, experts say the pandemic likely contributed to far more deaths than the official count.


“I think on balance the number of potentially inflated deaths is far outweighed by the number of deaths we are missing related to COVID-19,” said Dr. Sadiya Khan, Northwestern Medicine.

From January 1 through April 30, the State of Illinois reported more than 40,700 people died from all causes.

That’s 3,896 more lives lost than the same time period in recent years, compared to 2,355 reported coronavirus-related deaths over the same period.

 

Here is the equivalent, just change the name of the disease:

You die from trauma in a head-on collision. Post-mortem you test positive for the syphilis TP-PA antibody indicating that the Treponema pallidum spirochete is present within you. You had no syphilis symptoms and had not consulted a physician because there was no reason to have a physician look at nothing you knew about.

You are arbitrarily classified as a syphilis death.

Make 1984 fiction again.

 

Excellent

 

“I think on balance the number of potentially inflated deaths is far outweighed by the number of deaths we are missing related to COVID-19,” said Dr. Sadiya Khan, Northwestern Medicine.

If the spade has not been observed, it cannot be said that the spade is out there somewhere. This is ludicrous.

 

This has been observed in nursing homes in New York. They did not test people who died in nursing homes because they never sought treatment in a hospital setting. People who dying from COVID at home without being tested and aren't included in the statistics.

 

If you're a scientist you got to see something empirical, you can't take a theological guess at it.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-death-toll-to-count-victims-not-hospitalized

New York City added thousands of people to its coronavirus death toll to account for victims who died in recent weeks without a confirmed diagnosis.

The additional deaths -- totaling 3,778 -- pushed the city’s total to more than 10,000. Almost 60% of the unconfirmed coronavirus patients died inside hospitals, the city reported.

Freddi Goldstein, press secretary to Mayor Bill de Blasio, said Tuesday that the data include at-home deaths of people suspected of having Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. That judgment is based on reported symptoms including cough, fever and shortness of breath.

“We are focused on ensuring that every New Yorker who died because of Covid-19 gets counted,” the city health commissioner, Oxiris Barbot, said in a written statement. “While these data reflect the tragic impact that the virus has had on our city, they will also help us to determine the scale and scope of the epidemic and guide us in our decisions.”


The city’s Health Department published official statistics Tuesday afternoon reporting 6,589 confirmed Covid-19 deaths as of Monday at 4 p.m. The data released Tuesday showed among the newly counted victims, 60% died while hospitalized before test results could confirm a diagnosis. Another 22% died at home, 18% in nursing homes or hospice, and less than 1% were dead on arrival at hospitals.

The unconfirmed presumed victims represent about 36% of the 10,367 virus-related deaths in New York, the nation’s most populous city.

De Blasio has said previously that there was a surge in unexplained at-home deaths coinciding with the virus outbreak, and that he suspected many of them were caused by Covid-19.

What we see here is that yes people do die from COVID at home or at the hospital and are never tested because of testing shortages.

 

We know they done it. With no confirmed diagnosis, that is, without any evidence, that don't make what they done right.

 

There is empirical evidence of COVID deaths being undercounted and that is what you asked for.