Trump Tells Minnesota Governor to Go Jump In a Lake, Denies Request for ‘Disaster’ Relief After Riot

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where are all the liberal posters to defend this. Can one of the liberal experts in here shed some light?
    @Denizen
    @Lee Atwater
    @Andrew Jackson

    I need some of the liberal experts in here to explain this concept to me as to why it makes sense to let the destruction occur and deal with it later. Is there some stroke of genius here that is going over my head? Please explain this in your infinite wisdom. Thanks
     
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    The Chinese Virus is different then criminal conduct

    Not sure how you can compare getting sick, to murder, assault, or looting
     
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    Maybe you don't understand what a strawman is....you made a claim, I simply asked for you to support it.

    Nah you didn't.

    The only person "triggered" here is you
     
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    I'm actually happy with you, I was going to try to find some post of yours defending Cliven Bundy. But I can't find one. I have to apologize to you for that.


    QUOTE="Subdermal, post: 1063776027, member: 54860"]You're raping the facts in this case. The Bundy Ranch never - no never - paid the BLM 'for the right to graze on those lands'. The BLM injected itself into the equation LONG AFTER an agreement to pay for the right to graze was decided. The BLM - but one tentacle in the long stinky intrusive body which is Federal Government - decided it didn't like cattle grazing. So it stuck its nose in and then began its real purpose: end cattle ranching.

    Why do you think all the other ranchers are gone, JEFF?[/QUOTE]

    That being said, they never did seem to defend the actions, but rather say "if they can't do it, why do you support BLM doing it"? Like a false equivalency.

    You can make sure there are less greenhouse gases. Or if you want a different example; town builds a dam and outsources the maintenace of the dam to a company. Company is corrupt and doesn't do their job. Dam breaks. Town floods. Would that count as a natural disaster?
     
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    I'm pretty okay with saying your argument is a strawman. My argument is simple, riots are controlled by the number of political coalitions on the state and local level. This isn't my argument by the way, I'm citing someone on this. Your argument of 'criminals are bad' doesn't touch mine at all. Why do you think I cited the Race riots in 1863? Because your argument doesn't make sense, I could have just as easily said "Gujarat in 2002" and ended this discussion. And if you go ahead and try to call Modhi a 'democrat'? I would have laughed at you for that assertion. In short? You have a strawman, because your argument doesn't touch my reason for why riots break out.
     
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    the riots in 1863 had to do with the civil war draft not race.

    criminals are bad...don’t riot and be a criminal.

    i am still concerned with why this happens in liberal run cities...politics certainly has some play i am sure.

    Modhi? that’s a straw man...he too doesn’t believe in our declaration and constitution.
     
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    You said that “they’re just democrats by another name.. are you really saying modhi fits your definition? Really? You’re not worried with them being “liberals”. Because you don’t get the basic ideas of what’s going on.
     
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    How about answering what I asked first
    How are riots like hurricanes? What are hurricanes protesting? How many people does it take to make a hurricane? How do you arrest a hurricane and charge it with a crime? How can a local government stop a hurricane to prevent damage?
     
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    The Republican leaders refused to act just like the Democratic leaders did.

    You just have different standards because of what letter comes at the end of their name
     
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    i never said one thing about the PM of India...with that said yes if they don’t support freedom and the principals we were founded on they aren’t Conservetive Republicans....

    once again why do we see these riots in the united states in leftist run areas?
     
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    My argument is that hurricanes are natural disasters. Riots are also natural disasters. So we should give assistance to both or none at al. We want to give them assistance. So they both get assistance.

    Though if you want more literal questions? I think there’s a court case right now not in at trial yet about gas companies lying about climate change.
     
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    i have different standards for a virus and crime...that’s correct.
     
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    That’s why I mentioned Gujarat. It’s the perfect counter example.

    And I already answered your question. Political coalitions.
     
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    Both which required inaction by leadership to become an issue. Correct.
     
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    not at all...it’s a straw man because they don’t follow the principals in our founding documents

    nah you dodged it
     
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    Because we are a nation that steps in for the greater good of the country, even when people leaders do stupid stuff. Or at least we were at one point in time.

    We bail out home owners that build and rebuild in areas of extreme weather and flooding. We bail out areas that have mismanaged pollution and infrastructure, we are bailing out areas that have let the virus run unimpeded, we bail out states that have mismanaged their budgets so poorly that they have effectively become welfare states.

    Maybe that period is over and instead of “Out of many, one” we have become “I got mine, **** you”.
     
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    no crime is an issue all the time, even if govt acts. it’s also voluntary

    catching a bug isn’t voluntary.

    rather mind blowing you are comparing someone beating another person to an inch of their life, to someone catching a bug. i certainly dont think the people of NYC should suffer because of Andrew “the grandma killer cuomo” couldn’t follow guidelines and their economy was shut down....and thus they lost their job...to the mayor of Seattle telling the police to stand down and alllow terrrorist to destroy the city.

    she made the choice to allow her city to be destroyed...the New Yorker didn’t make the choice for her job to be lost due to a new chinese virus.

    with that said Andy should get his State Govt bailed out
     
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    Ah, so you think disaster relief only goes to the state? Some of it does but a large percentage goes to businesses and individuals that are impacted.

    Screw them though, right?
     
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    I read it, tried to comprehend it and hurt myself. Stop it! :wall:
     
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    not at all the state’s should be prosecuting the criminals and ordering restitution. which would go to the insurance companies who covered the looting and vandalism...as well as medical bills for the folks assaulted.
     
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    Your dilemma I see, and solution I have. Let Minnesota’ Governor come to President Trump on all four, admit his ineptness, promise to deal with rioters decisively next time and humbly ask for federal assistance, all on National TV.

    I think, President Trump may listen.
     
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    Yeah that’s the usual response to my argument here.
     
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    Here’s what you said

    Riots are natural disasters

    But on occasion, you too can say smart things :couple_inlove:
     
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    Because they are. But shucks, thanks!
     
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    Trump will be dealt with in January 2021.

    Please don't thank me for dispelling ignorance.
     

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