Joe Biden’s disastrous plans for America’s suburbs

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  1. Josephwalker

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    For starters low cost housing inserted into wealthy neighborhoods brings down property values. I
    Secondly importing inner city welfare types brings associated crime and gangs into safe neighborhoods that people worked and slaved their entire lives to move their families to.
    You should earn your way into good neighborhoods. Its a privilege to live in one not a right.
     
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    Umm...AFFH (Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing) was part of the 1968 Fair Housing Act signed into law by Lyndon Johnson.

    In 2015 the Obama administration put some teeth into it by requiring any city or town that received Federal funding
    for housing and development to examine their practices and present a plan to rectify those practices that violated the Fair Housing Act.

    In other words, all cities and towns in the USA receiving Federal funds are going to comply with the law we passed 47 years ago and you’re going to tell us how you’re going to do it.

    Be afraid! Be very afraid! Everyone will have to comply with the law. Is there any wonder why people are in the streets?
     
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    That original act was about discrimination and did not force cheap housing into expensive neighborhoods . Nice try though. Lol
     
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    Ah, THEY will be there. How does one earn their way into a good neighborhood? Is there a test? Some kind of initiation?
    "The Fair Housing Act prohibits discrimination in the sale, rental, and financing of housing based on race, color, national origin, religion, sex, familial status, and disability. The act has two main purposes—prevent discrimination and reverse housing segregation."
    nlihc.org
    "Specifically, affirmatively furthering fair housing means taking meaningful actions that, taken together, address significant disparities in housing needs and in access to opportunity, replacing segregated living patterns with truly integrated and balanced living patterns, transforming racially and ethnically concentrated areas of poverty into areas of opportunity, and fostering and maintaining compliance with civil rights and fair housing laws.'
    https://www.hudexchange.info/programs/affh/

    Economics is one way neighborhoods can control who lives there, but the major emphasis of the law is to improve neighborhoods and opportunity. One major part of the act that you ignore is transforming "transforming racially and ethnically concentrated areas of poverty into areas of opportunity." In other words transforming poor run down areas into better neighborhoods.
     
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    Builders construct low price houses, mid-price houses, and high price houses. They have been doing that for over a century. Why do you suppose???
     
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    Simple really. You earn your way into a good neighborhood by working hard, making good decisions, learning a trade or getting an education etc.
    The fair housing act stopped discrimination and anyone of any color who does the above earns their way into the neighborhood.
    Biden wants to insert losers into these neighborhoods of winners and in the process degrade the living standards so many worked so hard for
     
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    It seems you need to bone up on real estate markets and economics.
     
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    Obama did far more than just put teeth into enforcing the law. He inserted forced affirmative action into local zoning.
     
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    And people buy the low price houses and sell them at mid to high priced houses.
     
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    Zoning is where the little guy gets screwed up, down, sideways and inside out...
     
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    Let me see if I understand. The value of a house is partially decided by the people you live near. If they are the right type of people the value of your house is increased. If they are not the right people the value of your house is less. Therefore you have to keep the wrong people from living near you so the investment in your house doesn't decrease. Am I missing something?
     
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    There's freaking a whole host of cable programs and hundreds of hands-on seminars showing how to do this very thing!!!
     
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    Although only as long as there is someone willing to buy that low price house at a high price.
     
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    Yes. The value of a house is affected by the type of house next to it, not the type of people living in it.
     
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    I can understand why people in mid to upper class neighborhoods don't want to live close to poverty. The so-called "losers" are a bad element. But how are people who need a place to live going to survive without it?
     
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    "If" is the operative word here. With low income subsidized housing comes crime every time it's tried.
     
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    In a hood they can afford.
     
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    The inner city is not affordable. Why do you think that there is crime and gangs?
     
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    The stampede away from Fake Don by college-educated Whites in the suburbs is an existential reality for Fake Don, and one that demands Biden be smeared in the suburbs.

    Whether Fake Don's scare tactic of claiming that Biden will take away their windows has any reasonable hope of achieving that is highly dubious, but desperation is desperation.

     
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    Of course you all realize no homes in good neighborhoods are going to be torn down. This deals with building new places for people to live and renovating homes in run down sections. If that is the case how does this law effect the value of your house it only deals with new developments or renovations to run down property?
     
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    Numbers are in: Government can actually fix poverty
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ctually-fix-poverty/ar-BB176VfB?ocid=msedgntp
    Here's a news item closely linked to this thread topic.
     
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    Why do you?
     
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    He wants to greatly expand urban sprawl, in hopes it will breed the kinds of empty headed Democrat voters that populate those sprawls
     
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    I think the notion comes from the housing decisions being made from Washington, not from the local city government. When the feds get involved stupid and nonsensical policies follow like a plague.
     
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    There is nowhere in these poor, inner-city areas to find a respectable job when you're young. Other than maybe work at a local cigarette store (Vape store?)

    So to earn some money they agree to work with a gang. People aren't dumb they will go for the cash and the "brotherhood" which is really only one way. And, they work as grunts. Until they are kicked out for being too old.

    There are a lot of social workers (some ex-gang members) who try and keep kids in these inner cities from wasting their lives by joining a gang, instead of going to school. But, they are out of their league. Crime does pay. They're making the ching-ching $$$$$$$$.
     

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