Does the 'right to free speech' actually exist in the US?

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Does the 'right to free speech' actually exist in the US?

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  1. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Name one thing Trump has done to stifle anyone's freedom of speech. I mean in actuality, not in your wishful mythical reverie.
     
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    Grievance professionals would dispute that, surely. Speech wounds, just ask them. Someone must pay!
     
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    I am pro-life. I'm alive to fight for those who aren't or should be.
     
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    Easy ....... Sending Federal Troops into cities to quell protesters resulting in agitating violence against Americans

    Trump Loves Dictators
     
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    You’re for taking away a woman’s right. You’re extreme.
     
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    I asked you to name one thing that Trump has done to stifle anyone's freedom of speech. Can you name one or not? Try again. Trump has not sent in any federal troops anywhere, nor has he sent in any federal agents to quell or stifle any peaceful protest.
     
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    I say it's better to be alive. "Extreme" murders in the name of convenience.
     
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    An abortion is anything but convenient. Unless you believe it’s an enjoyable procedure for a woman to go through. Not to mention for many it’s one of the hardest decisions they will ever make in their life.
     
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    who ever carries out the violence, they are to blame. Not necessarily the one calling for violence, unless they also carry it out.
     
  10. chris155au

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    I wonder if you can defend that claim with a little bit of an argument.
     
  11. chris155au

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    Removing the abortion procedure from the health system wouldn't be taking away a woman's right to choose to terminate her pregnancy. They could do whatever they want with it. Would it make it more difficult? Sure, but it has nothing to do with having the right to choose.
     
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    Not PROPER liberals. Some become LEFTISTS. I still have time for PROPER liberals - you know, dudes like Bill Maher.
     
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    @Chuck711 would've had at least a CHANCE of taking on your challenge, if you didn't say this:
     
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    It very well could take away the right to choose to have an abortion if one can’t afford to have said abortion.
     
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    Yes, but the person that I directed that to - @TOG 6 - is FAR from a "grievance professional." TOG is a conservative to me, which makes what he said MOST unexpected!
     
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    If the abortion procedure was removed from the health system, how could anyone have an abortion AT ALL?
     
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    Wrong. Of Trump it is requested to do his job. Definite strawman!

    What did Obama choose? Definite strawman!

    Selective reading is the very definition of a strawman.

    Your posts are always full of strawman arguments.


    Nope! Obama is not an incompetent and uneducated criminal who has no scruples.

    I've provided many videos all over this forum of Trump's secret police attacking innocent protesters.
     
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    Sorry I thought you were referring to Trump excluding it from health insurance.
    If the procedure was completely taken away then yes, that is taking away the choice. Where are women supposed to go for an abortion medical procedure if abortions are illegal?
     
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    Sadly, NO! NO! NO!

    As I have written:

    Thousands of people are being fired for a slightest disagreement with Progressives.
     
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    Perhaps if Totalitarian Right had the power, they would stifle Free Speech.

    In USA 2020, most people are afraid of offending Totalitarian Left.

    Everyone freely criticizes Trump.
     
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    We have freedom of speech but its only recently that seemingly innocuous comments or wearing a hat can ruin your life. We used to be able to disagree politically without being accused of being racist or triggering your own mental deficiencies.

    That is the poison that Leftists have unleashed. And it only goes one way. Conservatives can’t even work in media anymore without being chased away. They have to work at a Conservative source or for themselves. Even in tech your political slant can get you fired now. That NEVER happened before. Leftists truly have unleashed a social plague and it’ll eventually do more damage than Covid ever could.
     
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    A couple got arrested in California for saying only white lives matter. That’s some BS. Sure, I don’t agree with the message, but they for damned sure should be free to say it.
     
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    The fear that being Politically Incorrect was dangerous existed in 1990s. But it was just a fear.

    In 2000s, I talked to several advocates for male victims of abuse and discrimination. These advocates ran male positive websites under their own names. In 2000 all had jobs.

    Now, slightest disagreement with Progressives leads to blacklisting.
     
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    Massive censorship never existed in USA until late 2010s. Even McCarty era was not as bad.

    In 1990s and 2000s there was Political Correctness but few people were fired.
     
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    If wishful mythical reverie is allowed, they probably have thousands of examples, maybe even matching the number of lies.
     
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