Does the 'right to free speech' actually exist in the US?

I want the states to have THEIR say. Call that "dictating," but I call it public permission if abortion is to continue. The important part is the public will have their say (and I believe the Warren Court repudiated).

See, you attack ME and I am saying EVERYBODY should have a say. Isn't that what democracy means?

 

Those are crimes and, like all speech, represent consequences of what is said. The first amendment protects the speech not a freedom from consequences.

 

But everyone won't have a say. The court will be the one to dictate what women can or can't do regarding their own bodies if another conservative, who wants to impose his/her beliefs on to everyone else, gets on the court. That's what it comes down to.

 

Every VOTER will have a say, as it should be on ANY issue of such national importance. Your "if" negates what follows it. Let the public decide. Put democracy to the test.

 

Almost every right has a duty not to do harm or not to abridge ( like that word) the rights of others in the excercize of "your" right.

 

It's not as simple as that and you know it. People don't vote for president based on one issue. Therefore a conservative will hold the WH. Therefore Roe v Wade could be decided by the courts. You can try to spin it that the people decide but that is bull.

 

I am calling for a Constitutional Convention, to entirely BYPASS the Supremely Ignorant. This would not be a Presidential election. John "Obamacare" Roberts and the other liberals would have no say whatsoever, as it was with first enacting and then repealing liquor in America. The system was tested and it works.

 

So as I stated...the voters won't have a say. Thanks

 

No, you don't....you don't want pregnant women to have a say in what to do with their own bodies..!!!...


As for the "public" ? …………...


Poll after poll for years says most Americans want abortion to remain legal.

 

I never once said that women should be denied their vote on this topic. Be careful in future how you phrase any attack along that line. I never once even implied it. All states, all voters is my position on that topic.

Then you should feel very comfortable entrusting the issue to a national vote. Would you live with the result if Roe v Wade were repealed?

 

The vote is within each state, to call for the Constitutional Convention. You would get to vote. Women too. Golly, how about that. Democracy.

 

There is no right to not be offended or be slandered, or not to be threatened with violence.

 

Sure, but what if hate speech became a crime?

Alright, so what about the consequences of someone being offended by something someone says?

 

It's a 'rite of passage' for some.

 

I'm not surprised! I quoted the wrong post. Now corrected, as you can see in the above post.

 

They have the right because of Roe v Wade. If that was overturned, would you all of a sudden start saying that women DO NOT have that right? I don't think so somehow!

 

When was the last Constitutional Convention?

 

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No, you don't....you don't want pregnant women to have a say in what to do with their own bodies..!!!...

I wasn't talking about their vote …

If abortion is banned women lose the basic human right of bodily autonomy...that is known as slavery....

We don't vote on basic human rights...


Why should RvW be repealed? Besides costing taxpayers a whopping amount of money what would it accomplish besides life being harder for women ?...(which seems to be what righties want)

Abortions occurred for thousands of years BEFORE RvW and will continue after...whether repealed or not.

 

No, if the abortion procedure from the health system, that would include private providers, who are regulated under the state's health system as a whole.

 

If abortions were made illegal then yes, women will have lost the right to legally choose.

 

You're not mistaken. I'm in Australia.

Isn't a liberal someone who stands for fundamentally LIBERAL principles?

 

Too long. Consider from the woman's standpoint. (Yeah, my wrong chromosome self dares go there.)

Equal Rights Amendment.

...Still wanna go there?

 

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AGAIN, NO, RvW did NOT give women the right to have an abortion !

They always had the right to bodily autonomy just like everyone else except SLAVES..

RvW PROTECTED that right from those who see women as nothing more than broodstock.

Of course not, women ALWAYS had the right to bodily autonomy just like everyone else...

 

How is excluding it from health insurance taking away the right to abortion? Does Roe v Wade mention anything about a woman's abortion being funded by the tax payer?

 

And it would be done legally, and not rammed it through Warren's court (*ritual spit*). It was that Court presuming to make law from whole cloth. It should have been decided at the state level.

In the end, if it ever came to a vote, liberals would fight against it ever getting onto a ballot. They don't want this voted on and know they'd lose if it ever got that far. Moreover, a Constitutional Convention (or ConCon) would open other issues Donks don't want to lose on.

You say the Electoral College is wrong? That's how you individually change it.

Or you lose Roe v Wade.

Choice! Ain't it freaking GRAND?!?!?