New Evidence in George Floyd's Death?

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Of course it does, the officers did not maliciously cause him to go into a cardiac event which killed him. It's difficult to understand how people will can ignore clear and convincing evidence just so they can satisfy their thirst to see some police go to jail for a murder which did not occur. Charge them with a physical abuse but Floyd was a deadman before he collapsed to the ground. Take off the emotional sunglasses and take a clear look at the facts and the evidence.
     
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    Oh, so what is the measuring stick that backs this claim of police brutality being an issue? What makes it more of an issue than anything else in the black community? I just want to see how its gauged an not just going in with blinders on and relying on my feelz.
     
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    Only that they have over charged the officer and Just like Casey Anthony and George Zimmerman, he will be acquitted.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    And I heard they want to place a 30 hologram of Floyd on some monument at the site. GEEEZZZ the man was a career criminal who had physically abused children and as pointed out pointed a gun at a pregnant woman, was on parole and had just committed another crime. Hey sorry he's dead from his heart condition and the drugs he was illegally taking and the fact he then resisted arrest. But to make a saint out of him as someone for the children to look up to...................just amazing.
     
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    Lets not forget, that even though Floyd was on fentanyl and had a knee on his neck, he died of Covid-19.
     
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    If he already was in cardiac distress before the arrest, there would be even less reason for the police officer to kneel on his neck for 8 minutes. On the contrary, the officers should have called an ambulance if that had been the case. If anything, this paints an even worse picture of the officers' action, kneeling on the neck of a man who wasn't even able to resist because he was dying of a heart attack?
     
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    Spin it however you want.
     
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    Yeah, I think Chauvin is in deep ****, but they over charged him and will be acquitted. He kept kneeling for 3 mins after the pulse was nowhere to be found. Floyd wanted to be held down, and sometimes that is therapeutic for those having anxiety, but the knee to the neck wasn't necessary.
     
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    As previously reported he had already injured himself and was bleeding from the mouth before he collapsed and while on the ground continued to kick his legs and struggle. The officers HAD called an ambulance.
     
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    I don't have a thirst for anyone to go to jail. I just doubt people would be up in arms about this if the races were reversed. The fact that Floyd stated that he wasn't feeling well (or whatever he said) should be MORE reason for the officer to not do what he did. I get it. I was a LEO and I know it's a tough job, but we have rules and laws and no officer should be above the law he took a vow to honor. Yes, it's tragic (for all involved) that it came to this but this isn't the first time a person has been killed by an overly aggressive cop and it won't be the last, sadly. It's high time that someone pays attention to the ongoing problem that has been swept under the rug far too long.
     
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    George Floyd's arrest was just an excuse for a bunch of angry thugs to brutally subdue him in a way that lead to his death loot, burn, and extort billions from corporations that are too afraid to tell them to go pound sand.
     
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    Not do what? The were trying to get him situated for an ambulance. HE fought with them not the other way around. They gently walked him over to the wall and sat him down. They then tried to get him to the SUV to sit, he collapsed on them and then continued to struggle. Remember he had already injured himself banging his head around while in the car and they feared he would injure himself some more if they did not restrain him. Did it seem that Chauvin tried to induce some pain and suffering while he was on the ground, yea I think you can get a conviction on that. Murder......not with a reasonable view of the evidence.
     
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    Wouldn't you struggle too, if you couldn't breathe and had a knee on your neck?

    It is astounding how far people go to justify the actions of the police officer.
     
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    He was claiming he couldn't breath before he got put in the SUV. That line kept going after he was put to the ground when FLOYD requested it be done. Floyd was having a panic attack.
     
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    Okay - lets go with that then. So, new evidence says that Floyd said he couldn't breathe BEFORE the knee went on his neck. I'd say that only makes matters worse for the police...wouldn't you? Can you support a police officer putting his knee on a man's neck AFTER he said he couldn't breathe which - as you point out - could well be an indicator of a cardiac event?
     
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    I think the officer deserves his day in court. Kinda the way I look at things. I do have an opinion. I wouldn't put anything past a Democrat cop working for a Democrat Police Department run by a Democrat Chief working in a Democrat city in a Democrat state. I try to suppress my initial impression despite the sordid history of the Democrat Party as the party of slavery, lynching, Jim Crow ,,, the party of racists like Woodrow Wilson who segregated civil service bathrooms and trained FDR how to hate blacks and Jews ,,, the party of Robert "Sheets" Byrd, KKK Exalted Cyclops whose statue still stands in the Capitol Bldg. ,,, the party of White Supremacist Stephen A. Douglas ,,, the party of Richard Russell, the racist Democrat name sake of the Senate Office Bldg.

    America is not the Democratic Party. We are much better than that. Now I'm ready to hear the evidence.
     
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    Not die of but possible contributor too.
     
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    ~ Sadly if Floyd had cooperated this would all be avoided .
     
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    I absolutely agree. I'm just glad that we are seeing him go to court - because before all the protests, he was only suspended.
     
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    The police roughing up a person no one knows is not justification for rioting, looting, arson, assaults and murder by the people who have no clue as to who Floyd is. If you want a 75 inch TV, then earn it.
     
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    I fixed it for you.
     
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    More unarmed blacks have been killed by the riots than by cops in all of 2019. But as they've said, BLM is not about ALL black lives, just SOME black lives.
     
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    I certainly hope the protests had nothing to do with the investigation and indictment. I doubt they were. That's not America.
    The violence had nothing to do with George Floyd. His death was an excuse to deliver socialism via chaos. Remember how many people died during the cultural revolution, the bolshevic revolution, and everywhere people were brainwashed into rebelling for free stuff. Tens of millions.
     
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    No it does not but it may not be what killed George Floyd and that creates doubt which is all a lawyer needs to get an acquittal. I think the other three police officers will be cleared and Derek Chauvin will lose his job but will also be cleared of murder. How is it that these police officers weren't trained in how to recognize someone in medical distress. I've seen this in many videos that there is no immediate care given when a police officer shoots someone, in the minutes before EMTs arrive that person could die. To me that is indifferent negligence. Maybe this will inspire new protocols.
     
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  25. Bluesguy

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    The officers are not EMT's and if you bothered to watch all the videos and read the transcripts it was the officers who were trying to get him to calm down and stop fighting and resisting and exerting himself, they calmly walked him over to the sidewalk and set him down to help him then tried to get him into the police SUV to wait for the ambulance. Of course the spirit in the dark hooded cape with the scythe was already looking at him at that point.
     

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