You moderate Repubs should join the Democratic Party, here's why.

Never before in history have all the old gaurd conservatives turned against their party leader like they have with Trump. Such conversatives as Max Boot, Steve Schmidt, Joe Scarborough, George Conway, Nicolle Wallace, Peggy Noonan, Mitt Romney, George Will, Rick Wilson, Jeff Flake, John McCain ( RIP) all of whom would be praising Ronald Reagan, have spoken out against Trump, many in a very big way, with a few writing a book or two with one premise; Trump is unfit for office and has to go.

Given that the Democratic party have experience a fairly big shift to the left at least in some respects, the moderates still control the party though the hard left has grown. Here's the deal, we need a conservative wing, like we used to have. We used to have a conservative wing, but they were basically anti-civil rights and are trying to suppress the vote, and many jumped and became republicans. Now the inmates are in control of the asylum, and the republican party is the party of Trumpism, they have flown over the cuckoo's nest. 85% of republicans love Trump, he's they guy they've been wanting all along, not guys like Mitt Romney, McCain or Reagan. Forget being independent. Independents have no caucus, they have no machinery, nothing to work with if you want to run for office.

So why not join dems and bring some balance to this party? The tent's big enough.

How about it, moderate republicans?

 

I don't think there are any moderate Republicans left. Moderate implies they are capable of feeling shame, so they have all become Democrats by now

The first thing those Republicans who are still Republicans now did back in 2017 (and actually before that) was to purge themselves of the odious stench of the RINO, who was anyone who didn't believe that the USA has been run by the Commie Deep State since McCarthy was censured and that Trump has been sent by Jesus himself to prepare His Way

Seriously, I have never seen the parties so divided and the reason for that division is the fact that the Republicans are being led by a narcissistic sociopath with no tolerance for dissent or compromise whatsoever. He hates moderates in his own party probably even more than he hates just about all of the enemies whom hate is the very basis of Trumperism. With commies and minorities you know where you stand, moderates are TRAITORS, to the cause, the ideology and their race. Trump and the Trumpers want nothing to do with the weak sisters who will not stand with them when the Hard Ways must finally be employed

 

Capable of being shamed. Thats an important distinction. Individualists feel shame when they do something they know was wrong, not when other people tell them it was wrong. Collectivists wait for others to tell them when to become ashamed because they have no moral compass of their own (or they ignore it, either way) and live their lives purely by the ethics of society. They await merely a 51% majority favor (or a suitably well manufactured false perception of a majority favor) to accept literally anything as being right.

 

I was thinking the exact same thing this morning. The left-right dialog could occur completely within the Democratic party, effectively shutting out what's left of the GOP. If Dems have controlling majorities, that is.

 

So the radical left has taken over the Democratic Party and you think that Republicans should therefore join them thus ensuring that the radical left gets in power, and subsequently give them even less reason to moderate their positions in order to get elected?

Lets turn this around. Since you feel like the never Trumpers listed above are in fact "old guard conservatives", and that they have decided that Trump is too radical for them, Democrats should therefore vote Republican so that you can increase the size of the Republican tent thus moderating the actions of Trump. How does that sound to you?...Yeah......It sounds REALLY stupid to me too.

 

Moderate Republicans should join the Democrat Party? Ha! Forget the moderate Republicans ---- I'm a moderate Independent, and with what's become of the Democrats in the last 10 years or so (and especially in the last 4 years) hell would freeze over before I'd join (or even support) the DP at this point.

I'm not necessarily enamored with everything the Republicans have done either, but they're leagues above the Democrats.

I don't think the moderates have enough of a voice amongst the Republicans ---- sending them over to the Dem side would eliminate their voices entirely.

In 12 years I've gone from voting for Obama to being virtually anti-Democrat. The Democrats aren't doing anything to attract moderates, if anything they're doing the opposite.

 

Democrats have swung FAR left since Obama, and you think moderate GOP should join communists?

 

Why anyone join the radicals in the DNC? The GOP is a big tent party, that represents freedom and the ideals that we were founded on...the DNC is essential no different the the Communist Party of China

 

you're confused cuz your a leftist and you believe in group think, the hive mind. sorry pal, but I don't give a **** what McCain or Romney think.

McCain was a more reasonable person until around 2000, that's when he started losing his mind, became a war monger, a fan of big centralized government, and proponent of illegal immigration.

Romney was outed as a waffling coward, with no core values at all, who leaned in whichever direction the wind was blowing.

Joe Scarborough was always a tool, and he has become a conspiracy kook and a hate filled lunatic

 

Because the Democrats have gone full on neo-Marxist left, the Republicans are picking up a lot of former dems who were driven out of their party for being traditional Scoop Jackson types.

 

I think you should aim your message to moderate Democrats who are being forced out of their party, they could join the RINO's in the Republican party and prevent this slippage into socialism the Democrats want to take us.

 

I heartily endorse this policy of Never Trumper neo-cons, such as the ones the OP listed, officially joining the Democratic Party and mess it up from the inside just like they did to the Republican Party. And as a bonus, they'll bring literally hundreds of votes from the Acela corridor into the Democratic Party!

 

You moderate Repubs should join the Democratic Party, here's why.

Good, I'm not included. I'm a far right wing nutjob. But I'm not a republican.

 

Why don't you democrats move to Cuba where you will immediately have what you are fighting for?

 

Nice list of Never Trumper hacks ya got there.

 

I dont know whats funnier, that the OP thinks people voting for Trump care what a bunch of washed up RINOs think or that these supposedly washed up RINOs who think Trump is not a conservative should join the commie democrats. That is really what is so incredibly and undeniably stupid about the lincoln project braindeads. The premise is completely illogical.

 

No democrat I know is advocating classic socialism, which is what I believe you are implying.

 

The hard left voted for Bernie, moderates voted for Biden, who got more voters, so your premise is incorrect. But, the hard left is growing stronger.

I could support any prominent democrat if they are nominated. On the other hand, if I were a republican, I could support any of the candidates except Trump. That is the difference.

I cannot be a member of a party that has Trump in it or support a party where 85% of it's members like Trump. Were it not for Trump, I would not have made the suggestion.

 

Cigars?

 

At one time, yes the tent was big enough. Not anymore. There are certain litmus tests to be passed to become a Democrat. What's happening is both parties are trying to rid themselves of their moderates. The progressives want the Democratic Party all to themselves. It's true, independents have no caucuses. But the two independents in congress aren't in actuality independents. They're democrats who decided to call themselves independents. If they were true independents, they wouldn't be caucusing with the Democrats, they wouldn't be voting the democratic party line close to 100%. They be voting for some Democratic legislation, some Republican, they'd pick and choose. When Sanders and King decided to caucus with the Democrats they became Democrats, not independents.

Now it's independents who decide who wins and loses elections. As Hillary about that. She lost the independent vote to Trump. Who's president now. In fact independents have been growing at a fairly good clip. From 30% of the electorate in 2006 to 40% today. The two major parties have shrunk and continue to shrink. Too many litmus tests for both. The Democrats shrunk from 37% of the electorate down to 31% today, Republicans from 31% down to 25%. If one is pro life, the democrats have no use for you even if you believe in 90% of everything else. If one is pro choice, forget the republican party, they don't want you.

The DNC work hard to defeat two pro life congressional democrats in their primary and succeeded. Neither party wants any moderates, just true ideologues. Just mindless robots to follow the dictates of their party leaders. If you don't, you'll get primaried out.

No thanks on joining either. I believe in judging and taking my stance on issues, legislation one at a time based on the merit of that legislation and how I view the issue. I like having an open and free mind. If I think the democrats are right, I'll support them on that issue. If I think the Republicans are right, I'll support them and oppose the Democrats. I'll decide which candidates I vote for on who I deem the best, not by the letter behind the candidates name. I have a mind, a free mind and I am to keep it that way by not succumbing to the wiles and propaganda of either party. I really find it interesting that 51% of all Americans have a negative/unfavorable view of the democratic party, 55% have a negative/unfavorable view of the Republican party. No wonder both parties keep shrinking. They'll continue to shrink as long as the democrats continue their far left march and the GOP their far right march. No room in either for those whose ideology is somewhere in-between the two parties.

You want moderates to come back to the Democratic Party, stop your leftward movement and begin moving toward the center. If not, be ready to lose some more moderates.

 

If you wanted to attract moderate Republicans you should have moved right, not left.

 

Why would moderate republicans join a party that has a thirst for killing babies, hates capitalism, hates the police and treats black people like pets?

 

You don't lose your 'open mind' by joining a party. You join a party to garner strength as a group. There is no independent caucus. If you want to be elected, you must run as a democrat or a republican.

I'm not a moderate, I'm a progressive and I'm the one asking moderates to broaden the party to which I belong. Since you don't get people to change their beliefs, the only way to move the party to the center is to ask moderates to join, and then the compromising point will shift more to the center. You can't tell a body of people to shift their beliefs, people are what they are, but you can tell a body of people to 'join'.

 

That's just Bill Clinton.....

 

See a pattern?