What is a racist?

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  1. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    1) I am not a he. Moriah is not a male name. 2) Please don't try to read my mind or translate what I've said. I have a fairly good command of the English language and am capable of saying what I want to say.
     
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    just restating what others with personal experience of it have stated.
     
  3. Resistance101

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    So presuming that your narrative is true (and it is not), then you are saying two wrongs don't make a right.

    Be denied a seat in a university because it was set aside for a black means I DID experience black racism.

    Here's the real difference:

    I'd be like the Chinese. They go into towns and establish their own community. They realize nobody has to accept you and the best way to have a community you feel comfortable in is to create one. It beats trying commit genocide against the most giving and benevolent people on the planet. It beats trying to make some silly argument that two wrongs make a right. Unlike BLM, I'm not whining and belly aching because someone doesn't give me what I want. I'm more outraged that the non-whites want to prevent the whites from exercising their Rights in order to create a false and fragile atmosphere of equality.

    Then, again, I have little respect for the white people because they don't fight back. They leave racial extremists to do the work and once those guys make fools of themselves, the bulk of whites that silently agreed with them are willing to throw their racial brethren under the bus. No sane white person would fight for white Rights given that scenario.
     
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    I'm afraid I don't understand you. Sorry.
     
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    I understand that political propaganda prostitutes have you believing that what you perceive as wrongs done to blacks are worse than the injustices meted out to other races and cultures.
     
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    In other words I'm supposed to disbelieve my lying eyes? Deny my own and other African-American people's life experiences?
    OK.
     
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    A series of bad assumptions. I was obviously talking about the US, you are off on a tangent. I do not know where you get I think racism only occurs in white men, see my definition in this OP. All white men are not the issue, the issue I was responding to is the complaint by entitled right-wing white men that white people don't have a "seat at the table" BS.
     
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    I'm not going to ask how old you are but I presume you were around when America was a very unfair and racist place. Perhaps you've experienced it first hand and you've been fighting against it your whole life. If so I deeply respect you for this and feel for you and all the people that have experienced it.

    In my opinion racism was a cancer, a horrible thing in the not so long ago past. But I honestly believe as a socially we have come along on leaps and bounds. In present day I don't see it as a problem. Sure there are still a few true racists around but within society they are seen as horrible vile people. It's something we no longer stand for.

    Can you please explain to me and show me exactly where true racism is allowed and accepted today?
     
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    That's a mighty short (cherry picked) list of grievances a representative of the white race has. Do all white people agree with you or do they think you got it wrong? African Americans have always had at least double the unemployment and poverty rate. A new study out says prejudice against blacks in hiring has not improved in the last 25 years. Blacks have been prevented from gaining wealth since emancipation. The mean wealth of a white family is $171,000, that of a black family is $17,000. The cause of that inequality is social and cultural and therefore it can be cured.
     
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    I am terribly sorry I thought racists were right-wing.
     
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    Maybe standing so far to the right your vision is skewed but he is a moderate and not progressive enough for me....it was his skin color.
     
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    And you left out the fact that it made no sense.
     
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    Nobody is telling you to deny what you experience. You just have to bear in mind that others experience the same kinds of things. Add to that in places like Chicago and Atlanta, where the local police are already under the control of a black / predominantly (overwhelmingly so) black leadership, if police actions are excessive and abusive then it clearly goes beyond race. The looters, shooters and rioters here are burning down black neighborhoods, destroying the homes of black citizens, putting black business owners out of a job while proclaiming that Black Lives Matter. What do you think we see with OUR own eyes?

    Do you know who Darius Sessoms is without using Google or some other search engine? He was a 25 year old black man that shot and killed 5 year old Cannon Hinnant (who was white) while his younger sisters looked on. So, George Floyd, a career criminal, who, between 1997 and 2005 was convicted of eight crimes and later accepted a plea bargain for a 2007 aggravated robbery and served four years in prison becomes a martyr, virtually NO American knows who Cannon Hinnant is. Do you think I turn a blind eye to reality? Nobody acknowledged Cannon Hinnant; nobody expressed outrage; the worthless arse white community never spoke out against that vicious act. It was literally off the national news media's radar in two days, but Floyd is somehow treated like a hero and weeks later, Floyd is still front page news.

    Do you not think that when I turn on my evening news, virtually every channel save of Faux News is, probably 85 percent non-white / non - American / and - or female? You think that is diversity?

    There are two sides to every story. I'm looking at Hollyweird today, wondering why there are virtually no new white male actors in major roles unless they come from Canada, Australia, New Zealand, or England. The genocide I see is very real; very subtle and very deliberate. American white males are too lazy, stupid, sorry, and apathetic to stand up for themselves except via rich reprobates that are barely fit to be called Americans. So, I'm not blind either. I see a lot of uncomfortable truths.
     
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    Barack Obama could not have been elected without the support of whites.
    I’ve given you a partial list of special privileges that African Americans have been given.
    It’s not my fault or America’s fault if they choose not to take advantage of them.
    As for being kept down, I don’t think enabling the perception of victimization benefits anyone.
    Other ethnic groups have been just as heavily put upon and in the case of Asians especially, have done far better than the mean without endless complaining even when put into internment camps.
     
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    Are you kidding? You think Donald Trump's signature issue was really a white supremacist idea?



    So, do you think Trump is right wing? Do you expect to find left wingers attending the Democrat National Convention OR the Republican National Convention? I told you: I am neither right wing or left wing, but during my lifetime I found a lot of racists making a home with the Democrats:

    * Henry Ford was a Democrat - He made the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion a major deal that left mainstream trying to claim they were forgeries and a hoax
    * J.B. Stoner - He ran for governor of Georgia as a Democrat promising to send all (really expletive deleteds) back to Africa
    * Trump was a Democrat until he decided to run for president

    BTW, you don't see Jaimie Foxx as being a racist?
     
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    Nope, just because you like it doesn't mean it's white supremacist.
     
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    You have to recognize a problem to fix a problem, ignoring it does nothing to change anything.
    The black community has been actively kept down by the dominant white society for 100 years which put them far behind economically and academically through no fault of their own other than being black. Most of society knows this and some are in denial.
    BTW the Japanese got reparations.
     
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    Yantos, we live under a system of White Supremacy. It's not about the racism of individual people. It's about the system as a whole. You may disagree with me. That's OK If you do.
    Yes, things are better than they used to be. But, we still have a long way to go, as evidenced by the protests we have been seeing for the last 2 months.
     
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    You're a hoot. THE reason I was kicked out of the right wing was having pointed out that the strategies that Trump was endorsing were not going to work. I was never on Steve Bannon's bandwagon.

    Now, Trump is throwing Bannon under the bus and wants to sound like me. Ironic, huh?

    Let me thank you for your baseless accusation, however. You have shown that prejudice and ignorance are a two way street. I have been responding to you with the occasional slam against whites and their current leadership without them having challenged what I've said here. You never took and that hint. AND, you take swipes at me, implying I'm right wing and support the proposed solutions that were destined to fail. And now I can say, unequivocally, I told you so. I did not support the wall idea and if you did your homework BEFORE making such an assumption, you would not be looking as bad as do right now.

    Take this for what it's worth: Don't ever try to stereotype me as being in any of the current classifications. The Democrats and Republicans; left and right; conservative and liberal are ALL going to the same destination via different routes. This election season, watch to see if ANY candidate invokes the word Republic. OR, will they all be yapping about a Democracy?
     
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    The blacks got equality. Oprah Winfrey made BILLIONS off of a system you claim holds black people down. She's worth more than all the U.S. paid to the Japanese. How much money did Bill Cosby make in his lifetime? Michael, Jordan, Michael Jackson, Rihanna, Robert Smith, David Steward, Tiger Woods, Kobe Bryant, Tyler Perry, Sean Combs, Mariah Carey,... these people are raking in millions upon millions.

    And, again, you dodge, deflect and ignore the fact that in those areas where blacks control the political machinery, they aren't leading the U.S. anywhere. They are failing so bad that black people are eating their own and blaming the whites. Atlanta is run by black politicians. It was billed as the "city to busy to hate." Now the city is being destroyed by black people looting, shooting, rioting, and burning. They're doing more to tear down Atlanta did than when Sherman marched there and burned it down.

    NOBODY is keeping black people down except black people. The Chinese are doing pretty good and have their own communities. Ever been to Chinatown in San Francisco?
     
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    A racist practices prejudice against people who have (and directly because of) different ethnic genetics.

    There arent very many of those in the US these days. What we mostly have now are culturists. A culturist practices prejudice against people who have (and directly because of) different cultural values, tastes and manurisms.

    Exibit A- hillbillies and cityslickers.
     
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    I still think the word is being abused. Even if some people are culturalists, if they've used thought, knowledge and / or reason to determine that they don't like a different culture, I cannot make that leap to racism. The closest I get to Hispanic culture is Taco Bell or maybe the occasional taco / burrito at the local Mexican restaurant. I've listened to their music, language, etc. and I prefer English - never thinking it was "better," just my own personal preference.
     
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    I didn't mean to infer theres anything wrong with culturism. I would probably qualify as a hillbilly to most folks, and I think most habits of city slickers are ridiculous. But culture is a choice. Its not biggoted to hold peoples choices against them. It can certainly be petty and stupid, like 'I don't like your hair', but its not at all similar to racism. Its just often framed as racism.
     
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    I live deep in Mexican Culture her eon the border.. I like most of it.. but I am not ok with the beer drinking every waking moment, the adultery or the making heros out of narcotrafficantes and illegals.
     
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    If that is your context then I defer to your comments. Thank you.
     

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