Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

That is a questionan scene.

 

I was asking why you are calling the kid a racist, when 2 out of 3 shooting victims were white. Now, that they have released the names and identities of all 3 shooting victims, they were all white.

Your response was about the kid driving to another state armed with guns. I've already said multiple times that a 17-year old had no place at any protest/riot and that the right to defend your own property does not extent to someone else's property and definitely not in another state.

So, why parrot the left-wing media narrative that the kid was some white supremacist racist, when facts don't show that racism was any part of this story? The kid was protecting property and acting as a medic to the protesters at the same time. All three men who went after him were white and the only men he were shot were those white men.

If, regardless of facts and nuance, everyone is just going to either defend the kid 100% or villainize him as a "racist" 100% then it appears to me that no one on either side wants and actual peaceful resolution.

 

Just a clarification. The skateboarder is Anthony Huber (not Rosenbaum).

 

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You make good points about the situation.
Just a matter for exploration do you have any links where the media calls this kid a "racist"? The reports I saw said that he was a member of or a fan of " militia" group(s).
Maybe some posters called him racist. Just curious.

 

You seem to have left a lot of the story out, just like CNN did. Why were the ANTIFA racists armed and shooting at the kid, why were they trying to loot and destroy stores? Why did they use profanity and racist language when thwarted previously at a store with an African American who stood guard outside? This is your team. No?

 

And the ANTIFA participants? You support them and their destruction, racism, and terror of the local community in Kenosha?

 

I stand corrected. Rosenbaum wasn't the guy with the skateboard. He is a violent sexual predator of minors.

 

The first guy, Rosenbaum, was in fact chasing Rittenhouse and throws what appears to be a molotov cocktail (though it isn't clear what object was thrown) at him before the latter shot him in the head.

Everything that happened after that was vigilante against vigilante. While Rittenhouse had the right to defend himself from being killed by an angry mob, the reason the mob became inflamed was because Rittenhouse just killed one of their own. It would be natural in any crowd that when an armed person opens fire and kills someone that the rest of the crowd will try to disarm the shooter to prevent him from killing more people. From that perspective, the persons attacking Rittenhouse to disarm and neutralize him were equally justified as Rittenhouse was to defend himself.

The moral of the story, as I see it, is that Kenosha needed more police, National Guards, FBI, DEA sheriffs and any other legal law enforcement to prevent the arson and property damage in the first place so that citizen militias did not feel the need to take the law into their own hands in the first place. The other alternative is that the media and many Democrat leaders stop fomenting hate and unrest through their messaging, and it doesn't look like that is going to happen before November.

 

Do you have a link for said reports? I haven't seen them.

 

And the other dude had a three page history of weapons charges and domestic violence.

CNN lead off their article about how he was a king and loving man, though.

I'd disagree. He was obviously violent. The video, and his long, long history of violence, makes that much obvious.

 

Nothing of value was lost.

 

It's small (that's what she said) but...



Molotov cocktail thrown at him. Kick to the face. Skateboard to the head. Gun pointed point blank at his face.

The outrage mob will lose this one, too. There's zero evidence to suggest he was aggressive, but there is all kinds of evidence to suggest the crowd was violent.

 

Witness protection?

 

Sorry, I was nitpicking on getting their names straight.

Rosenbaum was probably the worst (child/sex offender) of the three men shot, though the other two, Grosskreutz and Huber, had felony convictions in their past as well.

 

I will look for and get links of media reports of him being in militia member if you get links of media calling him a racist. DEAL?

Edit update - I kept my part of the deal, will you?

More https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/26/jacob-blake-kenosha-police-protests/

And more
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/26/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-murders-blm-protest-militia

 

No reason for you to be sorry. I had the names wrong. It's kind of important in this situation. I look at this like idiots found each other and collided. It's obvious these three weren't there to promote "social justice" as much as they were there to take advantage of the chaos to commit whatever crimes they thought they could get away with, for example maybe throw things at cops or whatever. The kid was way naive and got in way over his head.

 

Everybody who gets arrested is guilty.

Good to know.

Yeah, you know that's going to come back at you like a boomerang, right?

 

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Meanwhile complete media blackout on this elderly Kenosha business owner who was beaten unconscious and his business looted and burned to the ground. No condolence message from the governor. He is too busy crying about a couple thugs getting killed while committing violence and mayhem. No words can adequately describe the level of contempt I have for local Democratic leadership and the elites who are puppeteering them.



Here is how the woke left describes the incident:

 

BTW, from this article, Kyle was moved away from the burned down dealership that he was "protecting" by the police. He (and the other gun nuts with him) wasn't allowed to be there.
About 5 minutes later is when the initial chase happened. He was a scared kid with a gun who should never have been there. But he is old enough to bear some responsibility.

 

Appears that he had already shot someone in the back who was fleeing from a car store and was no threat and others then chased him who were then shot. The first victim was murdered

 

Only after he shot a looter in the back

 

If those Turd s were Pedos of course they deserve death but not by a vigilante justice.

 

Someone saying shoot me does not give you the right to shoot him. I'm amazed that I need to write the obvious! The first victim can be seen lying on the ground many yards away from Rittenhouse and appears to have been shot in the back so he could not have been a threat to the shooter.

 

A person chasing you, and throwing a flaming object at you, gives you the right to shoot them.

Agree, or disagree?