Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Care to correct yourself?

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    The video of the incident clearly shows the first assailant in pursuit of Rittenhouse.
     
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    Defending themselves, they actually had to travel out of state :)
     
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    Umm... well, I never actually suggested that media called the 17 yo a racist. The WAPO version doesn't seem to jive with the facts, they referred to the "Flight of a fugitive", etc. Has the Kenosha PD actually issued a warrant for his arrest? Or was this simply the local ILL town being "proactive" absent jurisdiction? Seems if the kid was arrested, the local town PD would have shipped him to Kenosha, and not charged him locally since they have zero jurisdiction over the crime? WAPO also doesn't establish the membership of the 17 yo to any militia groups. Cadet to local PD and FD, but didn't see a reference to militias.

    The Guardian includes the allegation of membership in militias, but never actually provides actual evidence of this. Looks like a lot of spin doctoring here to create a false narrative which so far is unsubstantiated.

    Here's my question, the kid called the police. Told them what had happened, and the police allowed him to leave. What part of that makes him a) a fugitive? b) what gives the Ill town he lives in the jurisdiction to charge the kid, and c) why do his actions, to defend himself from the very violent crowd, who attacked him, in your mind make this kid so dangerous to democrats that they arrested him?
     
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    Did you find any or are those members of forums who made those statements calling him a racist.m

    I cannot find any media calling Kyle a racist. I found plenty reports that he is part of or thinks he is a militia member which I posted.

    Just a clarification I do not think the kid is a medic maybe he has a first aid kit as he claimed in his video. He could be EMT, my daughter was certified as a volunteer ambulance EMT when she was his age but she had to do it as a female in a Boy Scout program. Girls Scouts lacked that program to her disappointment.
     
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    That white boy went armed to the teeth across state line to join a militia and start a fight there, resulting that he killed multiple people. While a black man gets chocked to death in the middle of the streets for a kewl 9 minutes over 20 bucks.

    #whiteprivilege / #blm
     
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    He had time to stop, turn around and face the chaser so no it does not give you the right to shoot them - the shooter probably did not even see anything being thrown since it was from behind. And it also does not explain how the victim was shot in the back if the shooter was being chased
     
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    This doesn't seem to be the case, given the actual video evidence that is out there. Why try to advance this ?
     
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    You are allowed to defend yourself no matter where you are, I thought.

    Guess not.
     
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    The victim appears to be in the road between two cars so was in front of the shooter. Is that an exit wound?
     
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    Shameless.
     
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    Mostly some notable people Tweeting, including people running or Congress and "blue check" media influencers.

    Just a small sample of many people who should know better....

    Current Congresswoman...

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    Congressional hopeful....

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    Former speechwriter for Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch (Obama admin)...

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    Journalist for The Intercept...

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    Travelling cross state lines and joining a militia to start a fight, is not having some right to shoot out of self defense. That's self offense.
     
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    The victim appears to be lying between two cars on the street and the shooter is several yards behind him when we see someone take off their shirt and give first aid. The shooter then takes off in the opposite direction
     
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    I agree.
     
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    You have every right to shoot a person who is advancing on you in an obvious attempt to do you harm. It's Irrelevant if he saw the object that was thrown at him or not. The man was clearly advancing on him with hostile intent, and the flaming object proves that even if Rittenhouse didn't see it.

    Why are you persisting with this falsehood when I've already proven it's not true?
     
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    Which militia again?? You seem to be pretty fact bare at this point. Have you sent your best wishes for recovery to the elderly man the crowd beat unconscious before they looted his store? Why do you support the ANTIFA folks who burned and looted Kenosha?
     
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    Because the victim appears to be lying on the street between two cars ahead of the shooter. So it looks like the victim overtook the shooter and was then shot. If this is wrong, tell me
     
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    The video clearly shows him being shot as he's running towards Rittenhouse.

    Please stop your falsehoods.
     
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    I don't need to tell you. The video shows you everything.
     
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    So... it's just your guess? Did you watch the encounter at all? No? Why would you defend the actions of the guy who assaulted the kid? That seems unsupportable, but if you'd like to offer your defense of that attack, here we are waiting.
     
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    Your post was intelligent and meaningful until you sunk into the partisan BS. This thing with racism and protests that sadly turn violent is a core problem that is tearing our nation further apart. It just makes the process of healing our nation difficult to impossible when "we" degrade into accusations such as "in your mind make this kid so dangerous to democrats that they arrested him".

    Come on you are way more intelligent than that and you have in the past shown way more sense and credibility than that.
    I never mentioned Democrats and you know that.
    I never called him a fugitive.
    You say "Democrats" arrested him but where are the copies of the voter registration forms of the arresting authorities.

    Do you understand the rediculous nature of making this a partisan situation? As Insaid you must understand becausecas I further said you are intelligent why let partisan crap let you be degraded into a partisan cesspool?
     
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    That's the state the US is in.

    White kid gets go across state line, join a murderous militia, to kill people in the middle of the street,... to than pass the cops with his weapons, in order to go to bed. While a black man gets chocked to death over 9 minutes over 20 bucks. A white guy is able to massacre around in a black church, and get treated a hamburger by the cops. While them cops choke to death a black man for selling 10 cigarettes.

    The US is indeed shameless on this.
     
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    ok. This video is clearer and shows he was shot at front
     
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    Where have I defended anyone? They are all prats
     

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