Is Progressivism Satanic?

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    Eph6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

    The evidence points to progressivism being inspired, orchestrated, and controlled by Satan. And whether you believe the devil is a literal entity, a metaphor for human evil, or a literary device, the tactics and modus operandi of this character defines and parallels progressive ideology.

    Jesus is an authority on the devil: his tactics and agenda. These tactics and traits are exactly the same as those used by progressives, so the correlation between them is hard to miss.

    Lies

    This is the main one. It is THE defining characteristic of the devil. Jesus even called him 'the father of lies'. The constant lying, distorting, and promotion of falsehoods defines Progressivism, and is compelling evidence of satanic influence in progressive ideology.

    John 8:44 ..there is no truth in him. When he lies he speaks according to his own nature, he is a liar and the father of lies.

    Accuser of the brethren

    Satan is described as one who accuses.
    .. distortions, half truths, overt lies, and even true charges are levied constantly. Humans are flawed, and at times the accusations are legitimate. But it is the unending stream of accusations, spewing out in constant hate-streams, that typify the satanic inspired practice of accusation. Guilt is presumed, not innocence, and due process is ignored. The accusation is all that matters, and is effective in promoting the satanic agenda.

    Kill and Destroy

    John 10:10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

    Violence, intimidation, bullying, and censorship are common tactics of the progressive left. Open debate, reason, and civil discourse.. traditional principles in the American experience.. are contrary to the progressive agenda.

    Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence. ~Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Control

    1jn5:19 We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. 20We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true.

    The world is under the control of the devil.. ..but not exclusive control.. God still intervenes and protects us from the schemes of the devil. But the devil's control is growing, and his influence will increase, until the final Judgement.

    Division

    Satan divides families, friends, countrymen, and is contrary to anything uniting. He is the author of racism, identity politics, and division. He sets us against each other, with constant lies and false accusations, and cheers when hate and division run rampant among the people.

    Darkness

    Night is the devil's preferred time. He flees from the light. His followers, whether they know it or not, walk in the darkness, and do the devil's work in his time.

    Inquisitions, phony trials, and disappearance of dissidents in despotic countries all share common traits: the accusations are contrived, and it is in the middle of the night. Even the 'trial' of Jesus, when he was betrayed by Judas, stood before His accusers, and was condemned by the hastily assembled 'court', all took place late at night.

    Luke22:52 Then Jesus said to the chief priests, the officers of the temple guard, and the elders, who had come for him, “Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come with swords and clubs? 53Every day I was with you in the temple courts, and you did not lay a hand on me. But this is your hour—when darkness reigns.”

    Riots, looting, and lawlessness are primarily night time events. These followers of Darkness flee from the light, like cockroaches in a welfare queen's kitchen. The light exposes their works of darkness, and they avoid it.

    1Thess5:5 You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness.

    Deception, hatred, violence, and division will only increase, as the devil's control over lost humanity expands.

    Christians are called to resist the darkness, and to live in the light.. exposing the lies of the devil.

    If you have been deceived by the lies in progressive ideology, wake up! The devil holds you captive, you are estranged from, and at enmity with, God. Satan is a liar and deceiver, come to kill and destroy. Do not be a dupe to his agenda, or a casualty of his rebellion. The devil is defeated, but will deceive those who listen to his lies. Come to the Light, find Illumination, and be reconciled to your Creator.
     
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    God created satan
     
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    Depends. A Church of Satan approach would take Satan as ultimately anti-God, generating a libertine outlook unconstrained by hierarchical dictates.
     
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    Seriously now? Really?

    Why the hell is Christianity of any relevance? It is just one of many religions on this planet ... no more and no less.
    So why should the Bible and the religious things of Christians be of importance to anyone else who is not a Christian or even belongs to any religion like me who is convinced atheist, eh?

    State, society and religions must always be strictly separated ... that is called secularism!
    I respect every religion on this planet as long as it does not think it is the only true and correct religion, puts itself above all others and also thinks that it has the rght to force all others to submit to their religious ideology and point of view ... and this view belongs to and is valid to all religions!

    In other words: If someone thinks he has to believe in the Bible and its content, then he should do that ... for me the Bible is a book of fairy tales with a certain historical core of things that also happened at the respective times.

    So believe in your Christian God, that's your business and I don't care if you are a Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist or just worship the next tree as a god or whatever else!
    But please stop playing the Christian missionary here and presenting well-founded, scientific knowledge and progress as the work of a certain Satan, just because it refutes or contradicts the content of your Bible in which you believe, at least in part.

    And about Christianity itself: in history it was a brake on humanity and it has done a lot of evil. For example... Witch hunt, known? Of course ... if a storm destroyed the harvest, it was either God's punishment for some sins or it could just have been the work of a witch! So you pick one and burn it or make one of the Christian judgments of God like this:
    They are tied up and thrown into a deep lake. If she drowns, then she was guilty! If she doesn't drown, she can break free and come back above water, then she's a witch and must be burnt! This Christianity is really great! And then you talk about progressive being the work of a Satan ... oh dear!
     
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    ..not sure how your rant against Christianity has any bearing on the topic..

    Is Progressivism satanic? With the included disclaimer:
    "..whether you believe the devil is a literal entity, a metaphor for human evil, or a literary device, the tactics and modus operandi of this character defines and parallels progressive ideology."

    It is my premise, that i have evidenced in many threads, here, that Progressivism is a deadly evil for humanity. It is dragging us back to the dark ages, is anti-christian, anti-science, anti-American, and anti-human.

    It is satanic, as the parallels show.

    ..perhaps your knee jerk reaction with anti-christian rants merely reflects progressive Indoctrination?
     
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    Religious beliefs are irrelevant, to the topic.
     
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    Ehm ... because you religious motivated claim that Progressivism is evil is your topic and I say that this is nonsense?

    Without Progressivism you would still live in a cave like an animal!
     
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    LOL! Every single one of your headlines describes Trump, he does them to the power of ten.
     
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    Believe what you want. It does not refute any of my points. ..and your psychobabble projection does not comprise a rebuttal.
    .yes, so the accusations go..
    :roll:
     
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    I thought the same thing. Its as if somenoe drew up a list of the worst aspects of Trump and Trumpism and then insisted that this is about 'progressives'. Given that the GOP is now the Party of Trump the only logical conclusion is that the GOP is satanic. I'm guessing most of us have had our suspicions, but having it confirmed by one of the more verbose Christians on the board is nice.
     
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    Deflecting with ad hom and tu Quoque fallacies, is evidence of progressive Indoctrination.

    The parallels are there, for anyone with objective vision, but are hidden from those blinded by progressive Indoctrination.
     
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    Dude!

    Should've spoke at RNC or been Trumps speech writer.
     
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    Yes it does.
     
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    Short answer. No.
     
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    Along the same lines, GoodYear is satanic!

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    Thanks for the laugh.


    Are you also one of those "War on Xmas" guys? You really should be.
     
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    BTW:

    "But it is the unending stream of accusations, spewing out in constant hate-streams, that typify the satanic inspired practice of accusation."

    Hey, didn't you just spew out such a stream of unfounded accusations against your less conservative countrymen? According to your definition, does that make you satanic too?
     
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    Jesus said that Christians will be hated by everyone.
    Mark 13:13 ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake.
    Perhaps He should have said you will be annoying to all men. :)
     
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    ..if you don't want to discuss the topic, don't. Belittling me, personally, is just an ad hominem deflection.
     
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    Nope, I'm just paying attention. You basically described the current occupant of the White House and referred to those qualities as 'satanic'. The level of indoctrination required to ignore how well your list applies to Trump is beyond the wildest dreams of the most determined 'progressive'. That you are utterly incapable of seeing it will come as no surprise to anyone who has followed your other threads.

    You basically described the guy you plan to vote for as satanic. Keep it up, we are all loving the laughs.
     
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    I’m not belittling you but rather dealing with Christians in general who feel that they are under attack because they no longer have the authority to order students to pray in school. Also there is the notion that Jesus said this so maybe they should create conditions to make it so.
    But I will grant you that in the wider world outside the west Christians are definitely behind assailed.
     
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    I am not belittling, I am just citing your own words and the bible:

    "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

    It seems to me that you don't really realize that you are doing yourself what you are accusing others of.
     
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    Ehm ... what???

    The Christian Church is known for being and always has been a great brake on progress in human history ... and this for idiotic religious reasons.
    It was the Christian church that Gallileo and his progressive discovery that the earth revolves around the sun and not vice versa wanted to prevent ... or do you want to deny that?
    And while we're on that topic ... the advanced realization that the earth is not a flat disk has been fought by who for a long time, eh?

    So what was not refuted again?

    And then we come to your last comment in OP ...

    What the hell is this statement about please?

    OK, that progressive scientists like Charles Darwin and his doctrine of evolution for fundamentalist Christians is the pure work of Satan, that is well known.
    The so-called Christian creationists are also known with their statement that the earth is only around 6,000 years old because of the bible etc. ... which then all progressive scientific methods of age determination (e.g. the C-14 method), which refute this claim, of course, make it the work of Satan for them.

    Do you refer to such things in your statement?

    And ... what about all those people who are not Christians at all and who give with all due respect a damn about the Christian Bible? Why should they feel spoken about by your statement or even more than that?
     
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    Ah yes!

    Now we enter the Croprophilia stage of adoration.
     
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    That sounds a lot like doing something beastly with corn.
     
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