Trump accused of describing war dead as 'losers' and 'suckers.' He denies allegations.

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  1. TurnerAshby

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    We all know what probably happened just based on past statements from Trump but half of us are pretending because of the R attached to his name.

    Me personally he probably did say this but it changes nothing for me because we already knew this it's like saying "breaking news water is wet". He screwed up Coronavirus handling and relief in my eyes and until he acknowledges that and rectified that situation I dont care about all the around the edges stuff point blank
     
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    And I took great offense to that. But the loser comment was earlier and it's clear Trump was not talking about his service.
     
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    You cant parse that out imo I mean YOU can interpret anything how you see fit and that's fine....

    Everyone else was able to go to the ceremony that day but Trump so obviously there is more to that story
     
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    Did they make the same false claims as the Atlantic based on anonymous sources or did they report a story about the Atlantic story?
     
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    There very well could be more. As I said, I don't have a team, although I find that I do align with right leaning posters more often than not. But those same posters hate me in threads on racism, immigration, or gay marriage to name a few.

    But what I do know at this point is that left media is misleading yet again, just like their "Kenosha protesters shot" false headlines.
     
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    You think right media isn't doing that as well? It's your job to get the context and in this case the context tells me Trump likely (70-30) did this....

    It doesn't move the needle for me honestly because he's already lost my vote for his handling of the pandemic
     
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    Ummmm, that’s EXACTLY what the original report was ? “Sources who were in the room”.........
     
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    About his positions, or about what he did while a politician ?

    Show me where they said he wasn't a war hero ? Go ahead, Ill wait
     
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    No I don't believe that he said that. At any rate, he has also acknowledged that he was a hero in the same interview that he made the quip. It is what it is. John McCain had the support of millions and he choked. Then he betrayed them just like Romney is doing. So yeah, McCain is a loser in the sense he lost the election. He's also a loser in the sense that he betrayed America, betrayed his base, betrayed his voters. He made promises that he didn't keep because he hates Trump and for what? A stupid quip? How petty.
     
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    This.
     
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    Not sure what fox is up to these days. Used to watch them everyday but not in the last 3 years or so. I became poor and fox isn't free. The totality of my news consumption is CBS free app and limited Google searches from there.

    I'm more like 50/50 he said it. I just wanted to weigh in on left media's lies, as that's been my primary motivation in politics since I felt they were responsible for undermining the war I was in. Apolitical didn't give a damn about anything but being good at my job and partying before that.
     
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    Are you telling me when he said “he’s a hero because he was capture, I like people who weren’t captured” that was him calling McCain a hero?!?
     
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    Luntz: "He’s a war hero. He’s a war hero …"

    Trump: "He’s not a war hero ..."

    Luntz: "He’s war hero."

    Trump
    : "He is a war hero ..."1

    Luntz: "Five and half years in a Vietnamese prison camp …"

    Trump: "He’s a war hero 2 because che was captured. I like people that weren’t captured. So he’s a war hero 3 …"

    Luntz: "Do you agree with that?"

    Trump: "He’s a war hero, 4 because he was captured, okay? I believe, perhaps, he’s a war hero, 5 But right now he said some very bad things about a lot of people. So what I said is John McCain, I disagree with him that these people aren’t crazy."

    YES 5 times he said McCain is a hero.
     
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    He said it sarcastically and then conceded “perhaps” being captured makes him a hero after he could tell how idiotic he sounded.
     
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    I am confident that the Atlantic would not lie about his. Nevertheless, to present such incendiary charges without naming sources is irresponsible journalism. We need for people with access to Trump to come forward, identify themselves, and say, "Yes, I heard him make statements like this."
     
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    They are?? No sorry that's about all on the hands of Republicans.

    Reagan
    Made Osama bin laden gave him money to fight russia and thus starting his contempt for the us

    Iraq invaded twice by both Bush's. First one I agreed with we had to liberate Kuwait
    The second one is the reason why the middle east is so screwed up now. While yes suddam Hussein was a brutal dictator he put a check on the whole area. When we killed him it open the door for extremists which is a huge threat to us today.

    Now both Clinton and Bush jr could be blamed for having opportunities to kill bin laden before 9/11 they should have pulled that trigger.

    So why is the middle east so screwed up?
    The greed of this nation for oil specifically the Republicans who have this thirst for it. We should never have taken Hussein out without someone who could actually replace him..
     
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    No, I don't think you get it. McCain is a war hero yes, it is because he was captured, yes, and also McCain was a self centered narcissist who only cared about himself and not other veterans or his constituents. McCain was a total axxhxxe.
     
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    I like people who weren’t captured. Sounds like a guy with great respect for the sacrifice of our armed forces
     
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    Then they’ll be attacked a disgruntled or never trumpers. Like Mattis, Bolton etc etc
     
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    Boy if that's why you dislike McCain you must really hate Trump
     
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    Why? Because he voted no on a straight repeal. He told Republicans there has to be something to replace. If anything he saved millions of ppl with preexisting conditions but Republicans hatred of anything Obama wanted so desperately to get rid of anything Obama that they got enraged when McCain did what he did to save lives
    But Republicans dont care about lives look at how they treat the 175k dead already from the trump virus.
     
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    I'm not getting into the wars here. I just wanted to state the reason I transformed from apolitical to political: left media dishonesty.

    Casualty counters in the screen corner of every broadcast = "UNARMED black man shot in kenosha" = "Kenosha PROTESTERS shot" = "Somebody said Trump called vets losers; well he did call MCain a loser".
     
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    Trump just banned Critical Race Theory training for federal employees. So you can blather all you want about something I don't give a damn about. This ACTION that Trump has taken is the most important one he has taken since he has been office. Critical Race Theory is pure poison meant to dismantle our country. Hopefully the next step he takes is to arrest, prosecute and imprison the treasonous/seditious bastards who introduced this training into the federal government.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-ends-critical-race-theory-training-federal-employees
     
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    Well see that is what is wrong with democrats. They think if you put down one axxhxxe who happens to be a veteran, you are putting down all veterans.

    Just like if a single policeman makes a mistake and kills an African American, then all policemen are racists (even if racism has nothing to do with it).
     
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    No because Trump didn't have to do this. He had a comfortable life. He is doing this for the people. For America first. McCain stabbed Americans in the back.
     

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