Trump accused of describing war dead as 'losers' and 'suckers.' He denies allegations.

The hatred for Trump has caused democrats to invest themselves in lies and violence. They have seemingly abandoned all semblance of common sense and decency. Its desperation.

 

You can be upset at a vet or even disagree with one but you really should not call ANY vet a loser they faught for our rights as Americans and to degrade one like trump has done is to show his disregard for this nation. Meanwhile when McCain was captured tortured and treated like crap defending this nation trump was with his golden spoon at home with fake bone spurs. The man has ZERO room to talk he is a disgrace and will burn in hell whenever he does die and it would only be fitting for a deranged person like trump.

 

Biden was home too....when Biden questioned a war hero like McCain's manhood...it was a slap in the face to all Vets....how disgracely that Biden, the draft dodger make that claim.

How can you support him?

 

There is no denying Trump and McCain did not like each other. I never liked McCain myself and considered him a "Show Boat" and a loose cannon. That said, this new story seems so convenient to pop up two months before the election. Need to look at a couple things.

1. Anonymous sources. If one bears witness against another person then that person needs to be held accountable and willing to identify them selves. The accused has a right to defend himself. If this story is false then it would be slander.

2. Why are the statements as derogatory, as cited, only being published now? As much as the press despise Trump this story would have broke years ago.

3. Laurene Powell Jobs , widow of Steve Jobs of Apple, is the majority stakeholder of the Atlantic.

In the 2016 Presidential elections, Powell Jobs donated $2m to Hillary Clinton and raised a further $4m for her.

In 2017, she backed the founding of the political organization ACRONYM,[26] which raised ethical questions for Powell Jobs for its creation of Courier Newsroom.

In the 2020 primaries, Powell Jobs donated to the Klobuchar, Biden, Buttigieg, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker and Michael Bennet primary campaigns for the Democrat nomination. She then went on to donate over $500,000 to the Biden presidential campaign. How convenient.

4. Jeffery Goldberg, Editor in Chief of the Atlantic and also mouthpiece for Obama Doctrine, Israel and foreign policy. Highly critical of Israel policies at present. I'm sure Trumps moving of the Embassy to Jerusalem did not set well with him. He is a Palestinian sympathizer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atlantic

 

Trump is blamed, and rightfully so.

 

Just venting about "orange man bad"? Literally NOTHING that you posted had ANYTHING to do with what I posted or the OP.






EDIT, I almost forgot:



Just so you have a reason to be triggered. Something about red hats triggers liberals.

 

No ...a handful of customers were upset, they sued the company...the company settled because Trump took office and didn't want the case pending while he took office

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-trump-university-20160601-snap-story.html

"Martin said that the majority of customers had positive experiences with Trump University, and that those perceptions were reflected in the documents and in surveys — also part of the record — that show high satisfaction."

 

That's your counter argument? The WH is in panic, they'd ask any supporters to back him on the point that the story is false. Wouldn't you?

THe story has severe liability implications. Trump has a history of suing at the drop of a hat.

Obviously, the editor-in-cheif knows this, so there is only ONE reason he knows he is 'safe'.

The story is true.

There is no other possible conclusion one can draw from the publishing of that story, where an editor of a magazine stakes the entire reputation of a major story on publishing a story, if false, just like Gawker, could be sued into oblivion by a billionaire.


You don't think Atlantic took all these precautions to MAKE DAMN SURE THE STORY IS TRUE?

The Atlantic has been publishing since 1857, it's a veritable American Institution. You think the editor would take a chance like that?

Use your brain, man.

 

Trump is blamed, period. That's the narrative, he appeared in ads and made false claims.

Trump U did a trick that Scientology does ( I know, I took one of their courses ) early in the courses he gets people to sign a positive testimonial, long before they realize they are duped.

Scientology pulls the same trick and claims 'majority satisfied'.

It's propaganda, and bullshit.

 

I already stated my argument. You came back with some nonsense that Trump did it because people that don't like him didn't say he didn't do it, which makes no ****ing sense at all. I know that the majority owner of the Atlantic donated 1.2 million to Biden's campaign. I do know that even McCain's son in law questions the integrity of the article and the author. I know that the source is anonymous. I know that there is no proof that it ever happened. I know that a guy that doesn't like Trump that was there said he didn't hear it. I know that people that were there that don't like Trump haven't stepped forward and confirmed the story. I do use my brain. I just don't use it for a basketball.

 

So at this point with all the circumstantial evidence (he didn't go but others in his administration did, his treatment of past gold star families and his words against McCain's POW stint) there is no use arguing to people who want to believe against all facts because of the letter beside Trumps name.....

 

Of course he worked there and was blamed by a few dissatisified customers...that often happens in the business world...you can't make everyone happy all the time. What false claims? My understanding is a lot of these upset customers were mad because Trump actually wasn't there teaching the courses...which is just silly that they actually thought that.....

Sorry you have been duped before

 

Since Joe cannot gain in polls, are the democrats now focused on suppressing Republican turn out?

I cannot speak for all undecided voters, but as an undecided voter, I can tell you that the current democratic tact isn't doing them any favors with me. Biden's response was particularly weak. He invoked his guardsman son who spent his entire military career as a JAG lawyer and when he got called up in the surge, Joe said he didn't want him to go.

 

I'm not as sure as you seem to be that the editor's protection from a lawsuit is entirely based on the story being true.

 

You might not like the truth, but everything in the above statement is true.

 

And replied to by Trump, who has a history of lying.

 

Search my tirade on this forum when Trump said he liked people that weren't captured. I'm not blinded by anything...well that's not true; I was blinded by left media in the initial hours of this. I was enraged at Trump. Then halfway through the day I noticed that pundits/anchors were repeating, "He called Mccain a loser', banging it like a drum. I went back and watched the full context, and lo and behold the left media is at it again with their concerted mass deception of the American public. Trump did NOT call Mccain a loser reference his military service (at least in the interview they keep citing), and all of these pundits, although technically not lying, are misleading the nation.

I dislike Trump. I guess mildly. But I can't stand the left media. They are in great part responsible for the debacle in the Middle East (and most likely Vietnam, but I wasn't around to closely watch their asses). And now they sow further division with these riots.

 

We actually see through the lies of Trump, who is attempting to divide us.

 

Even Foxnews reported this.

 

Yes it’s true that trump called McCain a loser. And also true that he swore he didn’t lol

 

Every military member in the middle east, by not responding to Putins bounties.

 

It's true but it is using half truth to mislead. As I said earlier, if I called Pittsburgh Steelers player Villanueva (a vet) a loser after he lost the AFC championship, and one tried to say I was denigrating his service, they would be wrong. In the media's case I go further, they would be deceptive.

 

Trump praised Mattis and Kelly when he hired them as war heroes.

A short time later he was calling them all sorts of names and making disparaging remarks about them.

So - did Trump screw up by hiring them in the first place and he lied about their qualifications, or was he mad that they wouldn't kiss his ass?
Do we believe the words of military generals on Trump's staff, men with storied history - or do we believe Trump, a man with a very checkered past?

 

He said "I like my war heroes not captured" talking about McCain......

Dang it you sucked me in.... I get it the R's more important than him disparaging miltary but just say that lol

 

Im not R either. Never voted for President at 43. In fact I disdain BOTH sides for lining up by the Millions to vote for one or the other suits. Do like me, wait for a real person, someone like us, and THEN go vote. You'll know him/her when you see them. Until then stay home.