Anti-mask protests

No hoax, and good for you that you haven't managed to contract it, but you have an interest in keeping it this way until the vaccines get in. Or maybe you have natural immunity, good for you. A number of people with O type blood and repeated exposure to previous coronaviruses (the 20% that cause the common cold) and high levels of vitamin D may indeed be less susceptible to this novel coronavirus than others who do not have the above characteristics. Or maybe you had it but haven't noticed it because it was asymptomatic, but even asymptomatic people can come out of it with damage to the heart muscle fibers that will take a toll later in life.
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Yep. Mild flus kill 200,000 people in 7 months. Mild flus get people to have inflammatory and viral myocarditis, with a path to heart failure down the road, in 20% of infected people. Mild flus get people to have strokes. Mild flus get people to develop renal insufficiency. Mild flus get children to have MIS-C. Mild flus get people to have significant pulmonary fibrosis and shortness of breath for the rest of their lives. Mild flus get people to have disseminated intravascular coagulation with widespread endothelial lesions. Mild flus get people to have amputated limbs from blood clots. Darn, mild flus in your neck of the woods seem to be pretty darn damaging, given that ALL of the above have been found, in increasingly high numbers, in survivors of Covid-19, including those with mild cases, including young ones, and including those with no underlying medical conditions. Get informed.

Speak for yourself. I work in one, and we've lost so far one older doctor, one younger one, two nurses (one young, one older), and a respiratory therapist. We felt pretty overwhelmed when they passed away. Yes, we've been managing (at great sacrifice) the number of cases we've received, fortunately, but we want to keep it that way and by now 7 months into this, it's pretty darn fatiguing. And then, remember that this is not over and might come in waves. We're getting to the fall, followed by the winter. Remember that the 2018-2019 H1N1 virus came in three waves, and the second and third were worse than the first one. Maybe it won't happen, but maybe it will. You deniers and anti-maskers are definitely not helping.

 

This is really not a left or right issue unless its forced. Righties like me dont accept GOVERNMENT forcing us what to wear. But I'm ok respecting the wishes of businesses.

My husband is mask obsessed, I'm not and wear my mask out of respect. Some people in my church wont wear masks, others are throwing a tantrum about it....

 

Excellent post. Thank you. I'll just add, it is looking more and more that those with chronic consequences of having had the acute infection are way more than 5%. Some scientists are saying 20% for the heart damage alone. I've posted an article in this sense in another thread.

 

It's interesting how people change their mind pretty fast when someone in that community does catch it and dies.

 

I am as well. I do recognize the right's of business owners to require patrons to wear masks. Some people are not even honoring that.

We had an issue earlier this week, at my local Target, about two miles from me. Flash mob style unmasking, dancing to Twisted Sister.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article245784820.html

 

Wow. I assure you that the virus has no political affiliation. Where do you guys get the crazy idea that viruses are sentient?

 

Well it is true that I havent known anyone get real sick from it. I've seen someone last year...who wasnt even 30 yet...get terribly ill and ended up in the hospital when he got the flu. Took weeks for him to recover.

The only difference between Covid and the flu is that many people are not immune to Covid so it can attack a high volume all at once.

 

Where did you get your degree in infectious diseases? You should demand a refund.

 

Insult noted. Hope it makes you feel all peachy.

 

I was insulting your medical school. You were taught incorrectly.

 

I wonder if these anti-maskers would tell their dentist or surgeon to forgo mask wearing while treating them.

 

As I've posted before, I am in the high risk group also, multiple times over. I still do not demand others protect me, it is my responsibility to protect myself. I use avoidance, timing and general common sense for anything I need to do away from home or work.

If someone walks into a business where I am without a mask, I avoid them. If they should invade my space, I step back and out of the way, because I recognize and acknowledge they have no requirement to protect me.

 

There is a difference between open wounds or incisions into the cavity of the body, and walking past someone a couple of feet away.

Growing up, my dentist did not wear a mask, and he had halitosis that would knock the proverbial buzzard off the wagon.

 

our regional hospital which servers in excess of 500,000 was never overwhelmed despite 1/3 the population being over the age of 65

I'm sorry if your source of information is slanted. You'll find that it's not what ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN/MSNBC/Fox reports, but more what they fail to report. For example, you'll hear about "right wing extremists" but never "leftists"

You'll hear how the GOP stalled a relief package but will never be told of the pork and non-covid items demanded by democrats in order to get their votes

I'm sorry that you are even unaware that conditioning has been done to you.

 

My point is that these anti-mask Trumpers would NOT want their healthcare providers to treat them without wearing a mask. Bet on it!

 

I must disagree and assure you that the left is using fear of the virus, even though the "curve" has been "flattened," to encourage vote-by-mail and ballot harvesting, because they expect these to help them in the election. How about the government health advisor in California (of course) who said schools can't be opened till after the election. Pretty clear evidence of politicizing the virus, right?

 

I read your response 4 or 5 times, something in the wording was bothering me. I believe it is the phrase 'moral duty'. While not legally binding, you are using a phrase that is a compilation of judgement and not accepting who is responsible for your welfare. You are also assuming that the non-masker in question does not have a valid reason for masking.

Educating people about the benefits (not you), providing the means/access to the supplies would go a long way for some. Others will continue to resist no matter what. And that is their right.

 

You fear mongerers are definitely not helping.

 

That was then, this is now. Population back then was around 201m.