How come republicans can't see that Trump is a fascist wannabe?

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Here is Trump, ordering his staff to take direct action against rivals.

    I've brought this up with republicans and Trump supporters many times, and the
    answer I get is ........'nothing burger' 'TDS'........ "orange man bad' or "NeverTrumper"

    Are y'all blind? Fascism doesn't arrive suddenly, it arrives in baby steps, then creeps, then walks, then gallops, then boom! It's here and then it's too late.

    What Trump is doing is unprecedented. He goes on a radio show, and rants for 2 hours, and talks about his rivals should be in jail ! ( uhh, no, there is no evidence) and tweets wondering why no one has arrested Biden, Clinton, or Obama.

    The depth of his ignorance is mind boggling, it is epic, it is collosal, he has no clue about separation of powers of the three branches. Where are his staff? Are they all sycophants, is there any semblence of Truth to power? Is Barr that big of a wet noodle?
    And, even if there were about to be some indictments, there sure as hell won't be now, it will look way too banana republic, no Judge will allow it. And Barr knows it.

    This is why Barr said 'Durham's report won't be ready until after the election.
    He knows that if he puts it out before the election, it will seal his fate as abusing
    his oath of office, by being a henchman for the president. That is not what the office of the AG is supposed to be about. America is his client, NOT Trump.

    Barr's reputation is bad enough, and he knows what people are saying about him, and the Durham report by the election, that is a bridge too far, (I'm sure Barr is holding it back intentionally ) and speaking of a bridge too far, we have Trump barking orders to get Pompeo to publish Hillary's emails ( yeah, that will derail her candidacy, brilliant! )

    You know what it is, it's the STEROIDS. Trump is high, he's on drugs.

    So, we got a sycophant as Veep, because if there ever were a time for the 25th amendment, Trump's obvious erratic behaviour makes it clear he is unfit. I mean, he's always been unfit as far as I'm concerned but now, it's beyond the pale, he's out of control. And he's got nuclear fingers?

    Are you kidding me? And you Trump supporters can't see what is happening before your eyes?
     
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  2. SiNNiK

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    God Bless Trump. Love that guy.
     
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    What exactly does Trump do that makes him a fascist?
     
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    Trump talks about how these people 'should be in jail' but never does it. The left ways Trump in jail and does everything to investigate and tear down anyone connected to Trump in hopes to finally tear down Trump.

    Yet it's Trump thats the facist. The left is just upset because he has pride in the flag and exercises his first amendment right to speak against false liberal press narratives and leftist BS.
     
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    LOL! So true...

    fascist-you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means.jpg
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In simple terms, fascism is defined as a government structure where one dictator has complete control of the entire country, state, or territory. Anyone who opposes this dictator is suppressed and individual rights are often oppressed. A fascist government might also be called totalitarian.

    Can anyone on the left explain how Trump fits the above definition. It seems to define the left perfectly.
     
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    You have hit the nail on the head. The left always accuses the enemy of what they are doing. Has anyone else noticed this?
     
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    I tried to read the article to find out, but I won't be subscribing so I guess I'll have to presume... that the indictments are predicated upon an alleged crime having been committed. Indicting people for committing crime isn't 'fascism.'
     
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    Your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief is the one who commits crimes and forces his lickspittle henchmen to commit them as well?

    Are you aware that releasing CLASSIFIED information is a crime and the ONLY reason your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief is DEMANDING that his SoS commit this crime is for SOLE partisan POLITICAL benefit of your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief?

    If there was any shred of credible evidence the Durham Investigation would have been RELEASED and every extreme rightwing DISINFORMATION source would be screaming about it.

    It is patently OBVIOUS that it is nothing more than a WASTE of taxpayer money as a PACIFIER for your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief.

    Yes, FASCISTS imprison their political opponents on BOGUS charges and that is EXACTLY what your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief is DEMANDING must happen NOW!

    Why anyone supports this GLARING display of FASCISM can only mean that there are a great many Americans who EMBRACE the concept of FASCISM too.

    Sad!
     
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    I'd argue that many dictatorships in the past and present imprison their political opponents, but considering that many want/wanted Trump imprisoned, if this one qualifier alone(and it's not really a qualifier for Fascism, I read Mussolini's book and openly identify as a Fascist.). is a qualifier, then the left is indeed just as bad.
     
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    Asinine whataboutism deflection sans factual substantiation.
     
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    Gotta hand it to the bloviating drama-queen that wrote that piece. It really sucks the reader in and manufactures this fantastical alt-reality out of what is simple government transparency. I could see how it would really warp the minds of people who didn't realize that the number of documents our government declassifies each year is in the millions. It truly is a remarkable piece of propaganda, I'm sure it will be nominated for some /cough "journalist" award.

    But aside from that I just have to ask something: why on earth shouldn't he take action against his rivals? Do you not remember the entire Russian collusion saga? Do you not remember how it was a complete fabrication of lies built on lies reinforced by lies and that all of this was obvious, literally, from day one? How can you possibly sit in judgement over Pres Trump in this manner for ordering some documentation be released when elements of the Clinton campaign, the Obama White House, the DOJ, The FBI, the NSA, the CIA, the DNC, foreign governments, American media, and God knows what else, conspired to prevent Donald Trump from being elected and then continued to conspire against him in the hopes of removing him from office or in the very least to cripple his Presidency through disruption. Those efforts went on for FOUR DAMN YEARS! If what Trump has done is 'fascism' to you then, please, what in the hell are we supposed to call the Russia scam?
     
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    What, you need factual substantiation that I'm a self-proclaimed Fascist-Technocrat, or that Trump isn't really a Fascist? There used to be poster here, Mr.Swedish Guy(who pointed me to Mussolini's works) who later admitted: Yeah, I'm a straight up Fascist. I literally agree with 80% of what Mussolini wrote, and I've tweaked the other 20% to my 21st century world.
     
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    The President can declassify classified information.

    How do you know the charges are bogus?
     
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    Taking actions requires ACTUAL CRIMES!

    There are NONE so what your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief is doing is FASCISM!
     
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    Because if there were any CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of actual CRIMES it would have been ACTED upon by now.
     
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    It’s a cult of personality so they really don’t care. He can do no wrong.
     
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    WTF? :eek:

    Fascism is 100% OPPOSED to everything that America stands for!
     
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    Federal prosecutor Nora Dannehy, a top aide to U.S. Attorney John H. Durham in his Russia investigation, has quietly resigned — at least partly out of concern that the investigative team is being pressed for political reasons to produce a report before its work is done, colleagues said.
    https://www.courant.com/news/connec...0200911-xcsapnq7g5e63kvtw5aqi7cv34-story.html
     
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    Not all Americans, apparently.
     
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    Trump requested drug testing. It was Biden who refuses. Who are you kidding? The only fascists here want to pack the Court!
     
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    Sadly Republicans don't really have a problem with authoritarianism.

    It suits their conservative mindset
     
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    1. Please expand on how, when and where Trump ordered drug testing. You tend to be selective with his reaction to drug testing.

    2. In regards to the courts Trump said a Judge should never be picked during an election year. Now when it suits him he rushes to appoint one. The choice is based on a political belief. Trump has not picked a Judge who is neutral. Thus two points of contention being argued. For you to selectively state the Demos want to pack the courts when Trump has in fact packed the courts not with neutral appointments but approximately 50 judges whose political ideology he agrees with is testament to his packing the courts.

    Finally the US legal system in regards to appointing Judges at any level has been based on political ideology. It shouldn't be but it is. Don't try play the game you can pack a court without someone challenging the political ideology of the candidates. You can't have it both ways.

    The real issue here is that you want people passively agreeing with what Trump does. Dream on .
     
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    Sadly too many leftists failed their civics classes and don’t know what the words mean that they speak:)
     
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    America stands for freedom of opinion, even opinions 100% opposed to everything that America stands for. If you Americans forget that basic tenet of your society, you risk losing your democracy even while fighting to save it.

    In my opinion, this is the greatest danger posed not only by Trump, but also by his opponents who - in a rush to get rid of him by all means - engage in exactly the same kind of identity politics in order to attract voters.

    Both sides forget that a president and his administration should serve the American people, all of the American people, irrespective of individual opinions and individual physical and spiritual characteristics. Both sides are likely to slide into dictatorship at this pace.
     
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