The Supreme Court hearings...a farce.

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    wow some bigoted left wing article

    of course they knew they were gonna accept her. They just point her on the bench a few years ago. They knew who she was and that she was qualified
     
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    huh? child labor? slavery?
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're correct, Reid opened the door by his first use to escalation of it. But if Reid hadn't used it, McConnell would have escalated it. Reid set the precedence for use of the nuclear option. McConnell followed suit. If Reid and the Democrats can use the nuclear option, I can use it too and use it more. Call it payback for their first use.

    But the fact remain, no first use, 60 vote cloture rule on all nominees. It would have been stupid as all get out if Reid and democrats thought the Republicans wouldn't use the nuclear option once they came into power and could do so, double stupid if they thought the Republicans would escalate or raise it to the SCOTUS.

    Now you watch, escalation will continue. I'm positive the Democrats will now escalate the nuclear option when they win the presidency and take back the senate by doing away with the filibuster and the last rights of the minority in the senate. Isn't it ironic that it was the Democrats, supposedly the party of minority rights that would do away with the rights of the minority in the senate. First partially, soon to be total. Although I would wager the irony of doing away with minority rights is totally lost on you.

    But the fact remains, no first use of the nuclear option, no setting the precedence for its use, no escalation, no Kavanaugh, no Barrett. These things escalate and you haven't seen the end of it.
     
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  4. Have at it

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    Your using a biased idiotic opinion piece to prove it?

    Listen pal, here is a hint, don't play with fire if you don't want to get burned, most of the left is like little children who want to hit someone and then run to the teacher so they don't get their ass whipped.

    Harry Reid started it with the nuclear option he was warned if he wanted to play dirty he will face the consequences.
     
  5. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've posted my reasons for not favoring the confirmation of a judge who is a lifetime member of a deeply religious sect with views that oppose my own where our freedoms are concerned. You've challenged nothing but my patience.
     
  6. TOG 6

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    Well, if you're just going to lie to yourself...
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    What I saw was the smartest person in the room looking a bit bemused at all those leftist hyenas and braying jackasses.
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    There is no, and never was any "discussion" inherent as a matter of fact, and that's a YOU problem, not me, as YOU established in YOUR OP. Again, YOU, not me, are the OP of this thread that doesn't warrant anything remotely resembling adult discussion, only ridicule. Want better? Don't start threads with insipid OPs that, as the written record of YOUR OP and YOUR subsequent posts establishes, creates or invites no "discussion" whatsoever.
     
  9. mitchscove

    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    So your claim is that Fascists are proponents of small government? And you think you can educate me?

    Mussolini was a Marxist before adopting Fascism. US Progressives set the example for the Nazis Nuremberg laws. The Nazis even sent researchers to the US to study the Democrat Plantations, Democrat lynching of freed slaves, Jim Crow and worked with Margaret Sanger on Eugenics. US Progressives and European Fascists were / are fruit from the same authoritarian tree.

    As I said, Reid nuked the Senate to stack the District and Appellate Courts with radicals. McConnell blocked Obama's rubber stamp, Garland, and leveled a defense against radicals in the lower courts by matching Reid's violation of trust by facilitating a defense in the SCOTUS.
     
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    So, this is some work I did a few years ago in response to Obamabots who called Trump a "fascist".

    Who really earned the fascist designation?

    The President who let assault weapons walk across the southern border in an attempt to have American bodies justify the repeal of Americans' 2nd Amendment right to self defense?;

    The President who weaponized the IRS against his opponents with audits and other forms of harassment?

    The President who had the IRS slow walk applications for raising funds to support free speech he didn't agree with?

    The President who unleashes the NSA to spy on American citizens, sent his NSA Director to Congress to lie about it, and exiled anyone who blew the whistle on his crimes and lies?

    The President who ordered the investigation of James Rosen who reported news he didn't like?

    The President who ordered the high tech assassination of American Citizen, Anwar al-Awlaki, on suspicion of crimes, redefining due process?

    The President who assassinated Anwar al-Awlaki's American Citizen son 2 weeks later?

    The President who gave a stand down order that allowed Iran and Suleimani to murder an Ambassador and his detail in order to protect his legacy of paying a ransom to Iran and giving Iran billions to put the mullahs on a path to a nuclear weapon?

    The President who refused to leave the White House peacefully; the President who weaponized the US intelligence agencies and those of our allies to infiltrate and frame the campaign of a candidate of the opposing party.

    The Fascist President, Ruler for Life of the Banana Republic of Obamaland, earned his fascist designation by amassing the worst record before the Supreme Court since Zachary Taylor and likely the worst ever for a full term President.

    I'm shocked that anyone aligned with Obama would have the audacity to appropriate the root of the word, Liberal. There was nothing about the last administration that put on display a reverence for Liberty.
     
  11. Tahuyaman

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    Barrett was impressive. She remained reasonable and respectful even when asked idiotic questions like “ are yiu a white supremacist’ and “ Have you ever sexually assaulted anyone”

    She made some look like the idiots they are.
     
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    You just can't do it, can you? Since you still refuse to answer my question, you leave me no choice but to assume that entering snide and arrogant posts to those you disagree with makes you feel better about yourself. Good luck with that.
     
  13. TOG 6

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    I have no issue whatsoever in presenting an effective to your claims and challenging you to defend your argument from said response, which I have, indeed, done several times here.

    You, however, have yet to produce anything resembling an effective response, instead choosing to whine about your perception of how you have been treated, thusly attempting to divert the argument away from your indefensible claims and towards me.

    Why is that?
     
  14. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    I corrected your first revisionist assertion, now you do it again with this latest screed? Like I did, why don't you document your claims, because your version of reality leaves the reader wanting.
     
  15. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    translation: my easily documented references and statements cannot be easily dismissed or disproved by struth, so suddenly his cognitive skills go on the fritz. Classic stall tactic by defeated right wing pundits.
     
  16. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Struth babbles but STILL cannot logically or factually disprove or refute the OP or subsequent postings.
     
  17. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    I'll dumb it down for you: the aforementioned attitudes have LONG been defended by "established" religions and various cults/off-shoots as part of the faith. The colonialist piggy back by the Catholic & Protestant churches in America that decimated the Native nations, the aborigine in Australia, the natives in the continent of Africa. Currently, you have off-shoots of the Mormon religion that treat women like indentured servants with sexual benefits...some doing some serious statutory rape under the guise of divinely sanctioned marriage. The same goes for the variations within the Islamic faith throughout the Asian and African continents.

    Barretts little religious group stinks the same. She belonged at one point and then wasn't fully forth coming about it during her review. A matter of history, a matter of fact. Deal with it.
     
  18. kungfuliberal

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    No, the excerpt clearly states that Reid did NOT initiate the "nuclear option"....that was an extrapolation by the GOP. That you insists otherwise speaks of either revisionism or poor reading comprehension. Your supposition and conjecture regarding the Dem party is just that and nothing more.

    Oh and for your information, pre-stated bias by the majority party vote is not a nuclear option or escalation...it's just sheer corruption and abuse of power.....the beginning slide to fascism, with Barr hanging in the wings for support.
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Name calling by you carries little weight given that you can't logically or factually disprove the OP or the link excerpt. That you can't disprove the fact check just frustrates you to no end.
    You and your ilk will excuse any and all discrepancies in your warped idealism of "stop the lib'rals and 'those people' "
    Bias in our judicial system to appointments? No problem. Judges belonging to misogynistic religious groups? It's nothing. A political party that abuses it's power to freely announce bias in evaluations and review? Ehh, as long as we win. Right?
    Yep, the fix is in and fascism is on the horizon. Enjoy yourself.
     
  20. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Stop babbling man! The OP makes declarative statements based on facts surrounding current events of the SCOTUS hearings on Barrett. If you disagree with them, explain to the reading audience why and where I am wrong. If you can't or won't, then don't vent your frustration by wasting time and space with drivel.

    If you accuse me of posting false statements, PROVE IT WITH CONTRARY DOCUMENTATION. That is a discussion, that is a debate. Your opinion is just that and nothing more.
     
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    I am not especially fond of "originalists" or "strict constructionist" simply because the Bill of Rights are largely written with broad rhetoric to begin with. Regardless, I have not seen anything reported that gives me concern about this particular nominee.
     
  22. kungfuliberal

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    Your first sentence is a lie, as I made no such statement, as the reader can see. From that, it's evident that you second sentence elicits a "no", as one can't open a closed mind.

    Mussolini was a opportunist who became a fascist....and subsequently put marxists on the same level as Jews and "minorities". A matter of history, a matter of fact.

    No one denies the Democratic Party's racist past. Get educated on the Southern Strategy, dixiecrats, etc.
    Jim Crow was not a person, you know. It was a policy akin to what would later become South African "apartheid.
    Yep Sanger was class/caste/racial bigot. But out of her misguided beliefs some good did come out......just like treatment for hypothermia came from Nazi experiments on Jewish concentration camp prisoners.

    Get someone with a GED in reading comprehension to explain that Reid DID NOT initiate a nuclear option...that was an extrapolation done by the GOP.

    Don't try to revise history: O'Connell state straight up in Obama's first year that the GOP's primary mission was to make him a one term president. They followed that with unprecedented obstructionism and filibusters.

    So spare us all this BS of yours. When Obama had a shot at an appointment, the GOP wailed to wait until the next election....9 MONTHS AWAY! Now less than 6 weeks away and their humping for their glazed eyed anti-abortion, Affordable Health Care stooge to get in. Disgrace.
     
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    Hey Mitch, why do you childishly fake a post by me when all one has to do is clik the arrow and see you are lying? Grow up.

    Once again: Definition of fascism
    often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

    As to your little screed:

    1. a lie that you cannot prove factually.
    2 & 3. Lies that were factually disproved via fact checks by liberal and conservative watch dogs.
    4. Please provide proof of this "exile" of any US citizen. We'll wait.
    5 & 6. Your first truth; Congress screamed bloody murder that Obama did not go through proper procedure for those actions....although later both were determined guilty via FBI & CIA review.
    7. A lie that you cannot prove factually.
    8. Sheer fantasy with no basis in truth. If you have any factual evidence, post it. History doesn't support your silliness here.
    9. What the hell does a foreign gov't internal have to do with Obama personally. Do you know how many dictatorships and despots America has supported over the years as policy? Name the country, and I'll do likewise with the Presidents as well.

    Come, come Mitch...you can't handle the truth regarding the OP. Barr, Trump, the GOP are all in favor of throwing the Constitution out the window to remove laws they don't like...the will of the people be damned. Or do you not know that 60% of America want the ACA to stay and be fixed?
     
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    Guess the dems shouldn’t have removed it a few years ago to get their judges in should they have?
     
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    I don’t see how that’s any different than putting a massive leftist ideologue who benefitted herself from affirmative action because she couldn’t get into school based upon her own test scores onto the highest court in the land. A woman who praises explicitly racist policies such as Affirmative Action like Sotomayor is not that much different than what you’re crying in regards to Barrett about.

    Sotomayor literally praises EXPLICITLY racist policies and you folks put her on the SCOTUS. So please excuse us when your crying about ACB’s religion falls on deaf ears.
     
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