Biden set to win election!!!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ronstar, Oct 26, 2020.

  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Early voting is predominantly lefties who continually push for more ways to vote.

    Republicans will head to the polling stations like they do every election.
     
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    Yes, but early voting shows there is just as much enthusiasm on the left. Many will stay home, but that's because they've already voted. Lots of Republicans voting early too. Election day turnout will be significantly reduced.
     
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    Can you stop ROFLing at stuff that isn't even mildly humorous? It's embarrassing, LOL. (See?)
     
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    The market does look like a Biden win is expected.
     
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    That was her excuse in the 1992 campaign. Drove Carville and Stephanopoulos, Bill's co-campaign managers, up a wall.
     
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    The odds of Trump being dealt another inside straight are well, slim and none. The biggest difference from the ‘16 cycle is he’s got the role of incumbent.
    The environment is horrid and he’s exhausted most of the electorate.
     
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    Yeah, right ... again, they just aren't telling you what you need to hear. I've done enough of my own fact checking to find them credible. Have you tried checking this for yourself? If you find a contrary article, link it.

    So sorry for your cognitive dissonance, but the facts are just not on the side of Trump supporters.
     
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    The odds of Trump being another inside straight are well, slim and none. The biggest difference from the ‘16 cycle is he’s got the role of incumbent.
    The environment is horrid and he’s exhausted most of the electorate.
     
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    This can't be overstated. A resounding agreement among many is that we're just tired of Trump. It's beyond politics to the point many (most) of us just want a break.
     
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    Her excuse for what? As I clearly recall, she spoke against being the type of spouse or First Lady to stay home and bake cookies.
     
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    I've been pretty convinced that Biden will win. Today, not so much.

    It is actually very possible that Trump will win fair and square without a need for cheating, for some important reasons:

    1. Ground game. His is much better than Biden's which is practically non-existing
    2. The cultural profile of his voters is not one that is conducive of saying yes to a phone pollsters and replying to 25 questions asked by a stranger. Maybe the polls remain grossly inaccurate anyway despite methodology tweaks.
    3. A lot of people are shy about saying they support Trump. They may be saying they will vote against him to be PC but may end up voting for him in the secret of the ballot box.
    4. It's estimated that 1,000,000 votes will be legitimately discarded due to mistakes made by voters who are unfamiliar with the process (such as no signature, no witness, etc). This hits non-whites more heavily and may make a different in swing states

    And finally, when one thinks of Biden's multiple paths to victory even if he loses Pennsylvania, one needs to realize that if he loses Pennsylvania, it's like Pennsylvania being a big poll. If he can't win there, the state where he was born and has huge urban centers with a diverse population, it means he is doing poorly with the people and will do poorly elsewhere, too, so it's not like "he can lose Pennsylvania but pull off an upset in Georgia" etc. If he loses Pennsylvania he is likely to also lose Florida, NC, Georgia, etc. His path to victory becomes complicated.

    So, as a matter of fact, nobody can be as convinced of Biden's imminent victory as I've been. It remains to be seen. It depends on turnout (that's where the ground game is important), on his voters not screwing up with the ballots, and on the polls being more accurate than in 2016.

    When we look at these issues (ground game, higher percentage of invalid mail-in votes by his voters) we realize that a 2% lead in Florida may perfectly become a 1% loss. And so on in other swing states.

    So, no, Biden's victory is not guaranteed at all, and his chances are likely to be much smaller than the 88% that pollsters are giving him.
     
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    Don't read me wrong, I don't support Trump and I've already voted for Biden.
    But the role of incumbent is actually very beneficial. Rarely the incumbent doesn't win re-election.
    He's exhausted some of the electorate. His base remains faithful.
     
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    I want a slow news day, something we haven't had since 2015 when Trump announced his candidacy.
     
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    Re: the ground game. Biden's drive-in rallies are no mean feat during a pandemic. Don't forget that most of us aren't dumb enough to attend one of Trump's packed, mostly maskless events. IMO, that's a whole pile of stupid. If Biden were to have one of his drive-in events where I live, I'd go to that in a heartbeat. I could show support from the comfort of my car, and enjoy whatever beverages and snacks I like.

    You items 2 and 3 are the same as they were in 2016, meaning complacency is not an option.

    Also, the 70 million or so who have already voted, including myself, are likely an indication of the determination of Trump's opposition. His supporters are much more likely to vote in person on election day, since he has poisoned them against early or mail-in voting.

    I'm not resting easy on poll results ... got fooled last time. Trump could win, but it looks very doubtful. Plus there's the blatant desperation of his continued whining and various attempts to discredit the whole process. I think he knows he's losing.
     
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    I don't recall for sure, but I think it had something to do with avoiding the bimbo eruption or maybe Whitewater..... at least avoiding knowledge of some then issue or controversy.
     
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    Anything "fact-checked" by -you- is worse even than either of those sources. Have -I- checked whether 538 is biased? No need to "check" anything, it leaps out like most of the multi-tiered "fact-check" scam, have read enough of their content to know, not "check" (and not much reading required at that). Did you think Nate Shivers' despondency on election night 2016 was simply due to how utterly WRONG his propaganda outlet was for months leading up to the 2016 election? Think again. Don't walk in the rain with your mouth open, you'll drown.

    Do you not realize that the "fact-checking" canard is completely transparent, obvious and laughed at? It is.

    Here's someone who spent way too much time analyzing Nate Sodium, could have reached the same conclusions after 5 minutes:

    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2016/12/why-you-should-never-ever-listen-to-nate-silver

    And no, don't bother "bias checking" this source, the article is loaded with easy to research facts that make Nate Sneed look like a moron.

    Could he be "right" about Biden's chances today? Sure, anyone can flip a coin.
     
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    I don't think Biden is as unlikable as Hillary, so there's that ....
     
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    Yep, market is limp like Biden.

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    the people lost, Trump was an affirmative action hire for the smaller States.... Trump got millions less votes
     
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    just like Bush, Trump is passing off a crashing economy
     
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    Hillary was definitely not a cookie and tea wife.

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    ...and it paid off with a wonderful, happy lifetime marriage business partnership...

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    She should be proud.

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    Whose fault is that? On slow news days, MSM made fun of Trump for misspelling a word on Twitter for 24 hours.

    CNN/MSNBC will go out of business or re-learn how to do actual news when Trump is gone.
     
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    Translation~ trump messed with the elites, are you an elite?
     
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    Who doesn't love a feeble old man with dementia? Reminds us of grandpa's last few years.
     
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