Biden set to win election!!!

How "brain dead" are the Trump supporters that were stranded out in the cold, three miles from where they had to park to attend his rally in Omaha? They had to wait so long for buses back to the parking lot that the last to leave were still waiting at midnight, a full three hours after Trump flew away, nice and warm, on Air Force One at our expense. Several people had to be hospitalized. And that doesn't include those who may get the virus after cramming themselves into buses, no distancing, and most no masks.

Maybe, at the next outdoor event in a cold region, they'll wear the masks just to keep their faces warm.

 

Did their opponents get more votes? If not, then your analogy fails.

 

Yeah, that was already discussed. Democrats credit Trump for being able to control the weather and traffic. He's all powerful!

 

so you think depending on where one lives their votes should be worth less or more?

Americans are Americans, regardless where they live

 

I wouldn't feel so disenfranchised by the EC if it were equitable according to population.

I've used this example before:

Wyoming: population around 578k, number of EC votes 3. That's one EC vote per 192,666 people.
California: population around 39.5 million, number of EC votes 55. That's one EC vote per 718,181 people.

That's a 3.7 to 1 advantage for the people of Wyoming. Does that seem fair to you? It doesn't to me. It make it seem like the people of Wyoming are 3.7 times more deserving than the people of California. I don't like unfairness in an election for a president that is supposed to represent us all.

If, instead, the EC allowed one vote per 500k people, then Wyoming would have 1 EC, plus in fairness a second just to cover that extra 78k people, and California would have 79 EC votes. And so on, state by state. The total number of EC votes needed to win would go up to around 330 or so. I'd be fine with that.

It needs to be equitable.

 

No one expected him to control the effing weather. Geebus, what a ridiculous notion. Did I blame Trump for anything other than having a rally where his supporters were subjected to such harsh conditions? My point was that IMO the people who endured that were not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.

Like with the virus, Trump didn't cause it but he damn well should have had a better response to it. He should know the possible consequences of his actions, and actually care about his own supporters.

 

So your hypothesis is that Trump doesn't care about his own supporters. Got it, thanks.

 

YES!!!! I am burnt out on all of it. I really am.

 

Some more arithmetic: if you got less than 50% of the votes, then your opponents got more votes than you.

 

Well, most of the people in Wyoming are American citizens. In California, the millions of non-citizens in the state count toward California's EC vote count, even if non-citizens and illegals can't vote themselves.

Seems not terribly inequitable that Wyoming gets 0.56% of the total electoral votes, and California gets 10.2%. All a state has to do to increase their EC is invite in and harbor millions of non-citizens, who will also help an agricultural state by working for below-minimum slave wages.

The weighted average of EC votes is reasonably fair. It's not like each state gets 1/50th (2%) of the electoral votes just for being a sovereign state.

 

It isn't a hypothesis. He proves it by his words and deeds. The man isn't capable of giving a damn about anyone besides himself.

 

I'll rephrase and ask again: did their opponents receive more votes, or fewer? There could have been third party candidates.

 

So that 3.7 to one advantage seems fair to you? Remember, illegals may not vote, but they are subject to the laws and policies of any administration.

 

...and Joe Biden is sooooo empathetic and caring just because of his "nice grandpa" facade, which is what most all the establishment elite class has been groomed to have. A good public face, right?

A few hundred Trump supporters got stuck in weather for an hour and a half because the buses were delayed by traffic. How does that compare to millions of men who were ripped from their families for decades?

 

Yes. California has 30 million residents over voting age, but only 25 million are American citizens. The state gets EC votes in our federal elections calculated for 5 million people who aren't even Americans.

Meanwhile Wyoming has 436,000 voting aged population, and 427,000 are citizens. You think that giving them half of one percent of the EC votes is unfair?

Maybe if we awarded EC votes based on Americans for American elections, versus total population of residents, then I'd take another look at the "fairness" of the EC.

 

Biden's words and deeds don't put his supporters in danger. It's called thoughtfulness.

Joe Biden is far from perfect and he'll make mistakes, but he's a decent man. Donald J. Trump is not.

 

I agree with that last bit.

 

That is all pure opinion, so we'll just have to disagree.

 

So if Americans voted against gay marriage by a simple majority... should it be allowed to stand?

 

equal rights should not be put up for a vote, all American should be treated equally

you can ban all marriage, but not allow it for some and not others

if a man can marry a women, so can a women

if a white can marry a white, so can a black

ect.....

 

He's so SURE to win he should order a bunch of fireworks, I hear Hillary is having a fire sale!

 

No. We can't vote away a minority's civil rights.

 

With deliberate thought and forethought the founders and framers consciously designed the EC to not be apportioned by population. They purposefully formed a republic with authority apportioned among the states, albeit tempered by population.

 

NEWS FLASH: Third party candidates are opponents. To answer your question directly many of the presidents who were elected with a minority vote had more than one opposing candidate.

 

If Biden wins he'll be a great president......for China