Are Trump's lawyers all crazy people?

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  1. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And over 3,500 people who have signed affidavits claiming under penalty of perjury that they have personally witnessed fraud and tampering are all crazy too..............................................:shocked:
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    suburban counties swing in the wind.

    this time they voted Blue
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    provide the evidence to a court.

    end of story
     
  4. ronv

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    So are you saying they worked okay in Georgia and Trump just lost?
    What states did the machine move the little dots.
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    show the evidence to a judge.

    end of story.
     
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    What does that have to do with timely tabulation?
     
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    Take a look at this. Notice that the majority of the counties are red. The blue counties are concentrated in the large metropolitan areas.
    2020 US Presidential Election Results: Live Map - ABC News (go.com)

    The link only gets to the national map. However, if you click a couple of times on Georgia, it will show individual counties.
     
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  8. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you could post a link to one of those affidavits so we could have a look at it.
     
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    lol, like the one that said a military ballot voted for Biden so it must be fraud as no military person would vote for Biden, many seem to be crazy Trump supporters

    or like the one that says she saw a van, they were supposed to be delieving food, but she just knows it was fraud, no proof, never say any fraud, she just 'knows' it
     
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  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Georgia is a GOP state.

    r u saying that allowed Democrat fraud and didnt stop it?
     
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    Debunked.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/11/...ting-machines-did-not-delete-trump-votes.html

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...achines-didnt-delete-switch-votes/6282157002/

    Even the conservative Cato Institute isn't buying it:

    https://www.cato.org/blog/no-presidential-election-was-not-rigged-hacked-voting-machines

    Most applicable bit:

    "With press, election officials, and Dominion Voting itself all refuting the wildest version of the conspiracy theory, George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley sought to salvage a more respectable‐sounding variant on Fox News. He claimed a short‐lived election night tabulation error in Michigan had somehow shown that Dominion software was “vulnerable to human error,” and should therefore be subject to added scrutiny because it was “rather ubiquitous.” While this might sound superficially more reasonable than shrieking about “stolen” votes, it is still a non‐sequitur. As Shiawassee County election clerk Abby Bowen had explained to FactCheck.org a week earlier, the error was the result of “a typo in the initial report that went out to the Bureau of Elections,” one that was noticed and rectified almost immediately. There was no reason to link it to Dominion software—or indeed any voting machine software. As host Steve Doocy quickly interjected, “five counties in Michigan and Georgia had problems. And the Dominion software was used in two of the counties and in every instance, largely it was human error, a problem, but the software did not affect the vote counts.” The only reason to mention the errors and Dominion in the same breath was the spurious connection that online conspiracy theorists had made, now laundered for mass consumption on a news network by a supposedly reputable academic."

    Even Steve Doocy doesn't buy Trump's conspiracy theory about the Dominion machines and software, so if politicians, years ago, questioned Dominion's efficacy, I don't see how that matters in this election.
     
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    No. You were saying the reason that there were so many quick vote counts for Biden in Georgia was because the small counties get counted faster.

    There are 159 counties in Georgia. If I counted right, only 29 of them went for Biden. If they completed counting the small counties first, then the initial big swing by mail in votes should have been for Trump. I saw just the opposite. There was a quick swing over to Biden Tuesday night and Wednesday morning.
     
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    STOP !!! You're killing me!

    :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

    :rock_slayer: :rock_slayer:

    :headbang:

    Either that, or this strain I'm vaping this afternoon is better than expected ... :smoking:
     
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    You gotta feel sorry for Mike Flynn. He was home free until he hired this cuckoo.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    . . . Or maybe YOU have been smoking even better stuff?

    :grin:
     
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    All you really have to do is open your eyes. There was plenty of bipartisan concern about how this was going to go.

    Pennsylvania, for example, was forced by the GOP to delay the counting of their mail-in ballots until 7am on Election Day, essentially guaranteeing late night tallies as the state tried to deal with an unprecedented number of mail in ballots due to the COVID-19 outbreak. Literally every news outlet predicted that the day-of voting would lean heavily republican (it even had a name like "The Red Mirage" or something) and then as the mail-in ballots were tallied, the races would tighten and some states would flip. This surprised NO ONE except people like you.

    "Pennsylvania’s extended vote-counting process could ultimately throw the election into chaos, particularly if the Electoral College count is close enough that Pennsylvania’s winner would determine the election or if the count comes down to a tight margin—which could be likely, given that President Donald Trump won the state by 0.7% in 2016. The in-person votes that get counted on Election Day could also give Trump an initial lead, causing him to prematurely claim victory and sow chaos as Joe Biden narrows the gap when the mail-in ballot counts become clearer. Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro told the Washington Post Thursday that he expects Trump to challenge Pennsylvania’s mail-in ballots in court and attempt to have the ballots—which are predominantly being cast by Democrats—thrown out. The state specifically decided to separate any ballots that arrive after Election Day from other ballots to ensure that those are the only ballots that will be rejected if the Supreme Court rules that the extended mail-in ballot deadline isn’t valid, rather than Trump using the decision to try and have all mail-in ballots thrown out. That being said, Shapiro warned the Post that he expects Trump to use the challenge against any post-Election Day ballots “as a hook to challenge all mail-in ballots.”

    10.29.2020 Forbes link.
     
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    I'm wondering if they're dumb enough to be holding back on this earth shattering evidence, the stuff they can't show us yet, planning to pull the same crap on the appellate court, and then spring it on SCOTUS.

    Is that Rudys plan? Are they that stupid?
     
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    :roflol:Nah, just sticking to micheladas today. Must be a combined effort.
     
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    Go back and read what I have written and then I will discuss it with you.
     
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    this wont make it to SCOTUS
     
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    Nope. Rudy apparently thinks it will. That's what he's been saying, anyway.
     
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    he thinks they are all morons.

    well, two of them may be.

    but not 4.

    they need 4
     
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    Heck, yeah! Rudy is worth $20,000 a day just for the entertainment value alone! Who else would stand there in public, knowing that millions would see it, with hair dye dripping down both sides of his face, claiming that the Dominion software was developed for Hugo Chavez in order for him to steal Venezuelan elections? And so forth. How many countries has he claimed were "in on it"?

    My favorite post-election Rudy show was the one held at the Four Seasons ... Landscaping Company! Wow, somebody really screwed the pooch on that one, eh? A presser in a parking lot, in between a sex shop and a crematorium.

    You really cannot make this sh!t up.
     
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    I think the reason is that Georgia is one of the states that don't start counting mail-in votes until polls close on election day. This year, that's been a slower process due to the pandemic and the extraordinary number of mail-in votes. Since Trump has been against mail-in voting all along, his supporters would likely vote in person on election day, so early returns would show him with a lead. But once the polls closed, they started counting mail-ins that were overwhelmingly Democrats and anti-Trump voters. When batches of those tallies started to affect the total, Biden pulled ahead.

    That's kind of a "nut shell" description, but it was expected to occur. The pundits even had a name for it: the Red Mirage.
     
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    The SC won't hear the case. Giuliani is dreaming. Well, he knows it; it's just a PR campaign at this point. Rile up the rubes.
     

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