Are Trump's lawyers all crazy people?

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  1. ronv

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    When did Atlanta start to come in?
     
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    How about the republicans pick to few suspicious ones to check?
    Do you think the republicans would program their machines to get more votes in states where they are already likely to win?
     
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    The Trumpiezians are asking for a machine count of the ballots. So once that is done there I'll be three counts, original, hand recount and machine recount.
     
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    Most likely fairly quickly after the polls closed for in person voting.
     
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    There was no ha king ofhe voting. achines so Don't Worry, Be Happy!
     
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    What's after this? Surely Trump won't accept it.
     
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    They already did pick them.

    The current manual — which Brnovich and Republican Gov. Doug Ducey signed off on last year — indicates officials in counties using vote centers "must conduct a hand count of regular ballots from at least 2% of the vote centers, or 2 vote centers, whichever is greater."

    That's exactly what Maricopa County did, with a member of the Republican Party participating. Three other counties also conducted audits this way but were not named in the suit.

    In his ruling, Judge John Hannah invited the Secretary of State's Office to seek payment for attorney's fees from the Arizona Republican Party, citing a state law that allows for such awards when a party brings a claim "without substantial justification" or "solely or primarily for delay or harassment."

    Maricopa County election audit lawsuit dismissed; canvass delay denied (azcentral.com)
     
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    It really doesn't look like it.
    Anyway, I hope you recover quickly.
     
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    In Arizona. How about the republicans being able to pick a few in whatever state or county they want?
     
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    Knock of the cheap insults.
     
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    Well there are a few more recounts coming. How many do you want?
    Gee you would think if you were going to put the fix in you would do it in a state with only a few thousand difference, not one with 150,000. But maybe that's just the party trying to throw you off.
     
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    I want more than recounts. I want the machines checked.
     
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    But you keep saying you can't understand how the vote tally changed while you were asleep right? That's what I keep getting from your posts.
     
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    I think I ask you this before without an answer.
    Do you think the machines moved the little black dot on the ballot at the same time they changed the count? Because that's the only way the hand recounts would match the machine counts that were changed.
     
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    Giuliani was pathetic! He forgot the Pope in his conspiracy theory: Biden is catholic, ah! ah!

    To answer the title question, what can Donald do? The clever ones don't want the job! So, there he is now with Clown Rudy and Hysteric Sidney, the poor little thing...
     
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    A careful look at the machines might indicate whether they have been tampered with. I have already given up on this election. I don't think someone committing fraud would hesitate to come up with a few after the fact ballots, given the chance.
     
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    Most likely? You mean you don't know?

    By JACQUELINE FELDSCHER

    11/03/2020 08:14 PM EST

    Updated: 11/03/2020 08:20 PM EST


    Election results for the Georgia county that includes the vast majority of Atlanta will be delayed because a pipe burst in a room where absentee ballots were being counted, the Atlanta Journal Constitution reported Tuesday.

    A delay in processing absentee votes in Fulton, Georgia’s largest county, will affect how quickly statewide results can be reported in a tightly contested state that could help decide the presidency.

    The water leak at State Farm Arena on Tuesday delayed absentee vote counting by four hours but did not damage any ballots, the paper reported.

    Burst pipe delays Atlanta absentee vote counting - POLITICO

    This isn't even fun anymore. :(
     
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    No. But it does not make a bit of difference. I was watching several states, not just a single precinct in Georgia. The source I was using did not even identify individual precincts. I saw trends from several states that made me suspicious. The common thread appeared to be the Dominion machines.
     
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    The common thread is mail in ballots from Democratic precincts.
     
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    A careful look. For what? What on earth does a "careful look" mean?

    They've already been looked at. How many times, by how many people, do want everything looked at? Carefully, of course.
     
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    Yep! Now we will see if a single one of them has a spine or a conscience.
     
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    I can't find where they have thoroughly investigated any Dominion machine that the republicans picked out. They need to look at the software to see if it has been changed and look at the record of those changes. Who ordered them, who performed them and who approved them? How did those changes affect the vote count. They need to run trial votes through it. They need to vary the markings a bit to see how that influences the machines. For example make sure that it treats variations in Biden vote markings the same way as Trump votes. The number of possible tests should only be limited by the imagination of those doing the investigation.
     
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    The Georgia recount was manual; turned back results that were nearly identical to the machines. T
    Don't you think you're describing the first roughest draft of what the testing actually is? I mean, the alternative is that they never tested them at all. Seems pretty improbable don't you think? Do you really think they haven't rigorously tested these exact metrics thousands of times?

    Let me start over. What is your assumption about how much testing it takes to bring a complex product to market?
     
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    I don't make any assumptions about how much testing it takes to bring it to market. There is considerable negative press about the Dominion machines. Texas won't use it at because of how vulnerable it is.
     
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    No, they don't need to do any of those things. They're professionals; you're not. They're elected officials; you're not. I have no idea what certification involves, but I have no reason not to trust it.

    Is this the hypochondriac method?

    "Better check again, doc. I know there's cancer in there somewhere."
     

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