Biden to impose $200 Gun Tax

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  1. gnoib

    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    A bayonet is a rather nasty piece of equipment.
    I have a collection of them, they are all very nasty suckers, from Napoleon times to WWII.
    I got trained in the use, you hit bone, it would take your boot to get it out.
    Nasty.
     
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    I own a lot of semi-automatic rifles and I never developed an interest in shooting up elementary schools.

    I will take you people in favor of banning these guns for the express reason you feel they are only good for mass murder, when you include the police in on the bans. Otherwise you just want the same cops you protest in the streets to have a monopoly on firepower. No thanks and no deal.
     
  3. gnoib

    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    Nothing wrong with hunting and trapping. If you have a hunting or trapping license, than a exemption should work, but you better should be able to prove that exemption, like sales recipe. File your your income.
    Simple
     
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    Yep. They were designed to do a job and do it well. When was the last mass byoneting you can recall of US citizens in the US? When was the last mass shooting that occurred because any gun had a means to attach a bayonet?
     
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    557 Well-Known Member

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    Much hunting and trapping is done without a license here. Yes, legally.

    Now, why exempt anyone just because they trap or hunt? Are you implying someone who traps couldn’t possibly commit a mass shooting? Why can you trust someone who shoots coyotes here or wild pigs down south more than a guy who lives in town and works at a C-store or is an accountant and never hunts?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I hate to tell you this but the bottom has fallen out of the market for beaver pelts since they no longer use them to make hats. If your kid is financing college and a car it might have to do with those packs of flour he has told you are for cooking at the campfire.

    Seriously, even if you're on Alaska's North slope I want to know what it is you're hunting to make serious money nowadays.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    They'd make even more if they put a fee on the old SS Uniforms and White Sheet Robes all Republicans have.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm thinking that classification criteria for the imaginary Assault Rifle will include 90% of firearms if the "rifle" part is dropped. Once the "rifle" class is included, homicides committed with the resulting weapon is dwarfed by that attributable to silverware. For instance, in 2018, 297 murders were committed with rifles, 1515 were committed with knives or cutting implements.
     
  9. gnoib

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    They have no idea what a bayonet can do. I know, because I was trained to use it.
    Nasty.
     
  10. gnoib

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    Hunting and trapping is done in my necks of the woods, too. Lots of it. But if you make money of it you have to file from a certain amount of money.
    Getting money for education, ain't peanuts. I know because I support 4H, for that purpose.
    You reach a threshold income, you have to file, even if you will not have to pay any taxes, federal or state.
    If you want your guns, ammo and what ever supplies, without any additional taxes, file and get a return.
    Simple.
     
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    It depends on the year. Coyotes can be hunted, trapped, spotlighted, etc. without a license and can be sold without a fur bearer’s permit. Some years a good ‘yote is worth $5 some years $75.

    To sell fox, raccoon, bobcat, badger, etc. you must purchase a fur bearer’s permit. Same as coyote, the year makes the difference. Raccoon last year were $65, this year $2. Fox can go for over $100 and bobcat for $200-300 again depending on year. Some years even skunk, porcupine etc have value as taxidermy prospects.

    And I don’t know what “serious money” is. To kids here a few hundred dollars a month for a few months buys a used pickup to drive to school. Nobody buys a new Camero at 14 years old to drive to school here. That’s why “taxing the crap” out of essential equipment they use is an elitist attitude.
     
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    It doesn’t matter what they can do. I split wood with a maul I could split someone’s head like a watermelon every 3 seconds with. We don’t ban or tax the maul because I can tear people up with it.
     
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    All you would have to do to file.
    Simple
     
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    So you would have specific tax returns for people who hunt and trap that would allow exemptions from “taxing the crap”out of their firearm use?

    Are you willing to answer the question as to why someone who traps or hunts is less a menace to society than a single mom that cleans hotel rooms?
     
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    You should answer the question as to why a teenager that traps should have rights a person who washes dishes late nights at a restaurant doesn’t.
     
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    I do Blacksmithing for a hobby, my 40 hammers, can split any skull, like a potato, any time.
    But than they are not meant to kill.
    A gun is meant to kill,a bayonet has no other purpose than to kill.
    My butcher knives have just one purpose to slice my steak, not to kill.
     
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    You should learn a bit about bayonets if you are going to use them as subject matter in discourse. Start by researching the K-BAR. You seriously think bayonet’s utility throughout history have only been killing people? You were in the military and think bayonets like the K-BAR are/were only used for killing people? This is why I can’t take arguments like this against firearms seriously.

    Once you bone up on your bayonet knowledge look into war hammers and other weapons of war sharing utility as tools of domestic endeavor. Then think a bit about why such domestic tools have been used by citizens throughout history so often as a matter of last resort instead of a matter of choice. Then you will have come full circle to the fact ridding a free society of arms is historically a very bad idea.
     
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    I do not understand that question.
    A person who washes dishes for a law abating employers, has to pay taxes, or at least file.
    They have to file Fed and state, if the employer keeps it league.

    If a teens works for me. in the summer, they apply like a adulate. No difference, beside work times.
    Those kids are minimum wage and have to work full time.
    Having a real job and are paying tax accordingly.

    Your hunting and trapping kids, should do the same. If not they are freeloaders and should be taxed harshly.
     
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    The question is why should a teenager trapping be exempted from a tax a dishwasher must pay under your plan. Why should ownership of firearms be discouraged through taxes on one individual but not another?
     
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    Opposit to you I was trained to use it, and used it.

    A K-Bar is a Rambo Knife not a bayonet.
    You have honestly no idea.
     
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    seriously.
    I mean seriously

    Please .............................
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    And just like that millions of Americans lost their guns in a boating accident...or in the bush...

    I do remember pretty vividly having a discussion on this very forum a few months ago about this and how I was told that Biden has absolutely no intentions of messing with gun rights and anything to the contrary is just conservatives making up stuff to smear him.

    I am very curious though, how exactly is he going to tax stuff that folks already own? Gonna go around to every door in America and ask if you have an AR in the closet or something lol?
     
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    High capacity could be classified with anything over 4 rounds. Also they dont mention belt fed which could be infinite. The people make laws against guns know next to nothing about guns and screw terminology up like crazy. They dont know what they are talking about they shouldnt legislate it. Also the 2nd amendment is to fight of tyrannical governments not hunt. So whatever the government is allowed we should be allowed.

    You said this in response to someone saying taking guns away was hoping for innocent people to be killed. Your logic could easily be flipped and used against you. Allowing citizens to have guns fully automatic or black powder pistols isnt hoping for innocent deaths either.
     
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    Irrelevant. That in no way has any bearing on the total lack of mass killings in the US using bayonets.
    You are correct in the KBAR not being utilized as a bayonet. I was thinking of the later M series US bayonets designed to be used for utility purposes. I’m in error in the KBAR being of that lineage. My point remains, bayonets are not solely used for killing people.

    Oh, and KBARs are hardly “Rambo” knives. LOL. I’ve never seen the movies but do know his knives were custom designed for the movies and were not KBARs.
     
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    Lol.....you have no response. There was nothing rational about your stance and when you get asked a question you can't answer you run.

    Pretty much par for the course from lefties.
     
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