It ain't over.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by God & Country, Dec 11, 2020.

  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The fat lady is old and overweight. She will likely have a heart attack before she finishes her song.
     
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    True, they have. If you vote it will be counted. There will be plenty of oversight to monitor any legitimate concerns. Apparently, for now there is a certain segment of the population, especially Trump minions that won’t accept anything but winning.
     
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    Yes, i can see many more republicans participating in mail in voting, no matter how many times and now matter if you're alive or dead. Have to even the playing field and we'll be more prepared next time.
     
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    11th Amendment to the United States Constitution
    The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.

    A citizen of one state can not bring suit against another. Case dismissed.
     
  5. ECA

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    My lord...are Trumpers still crying about a non-existent “stolen election”?

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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Well, laying aside all the conspiracy freaks and their "dead voting" Bullshit, I really enjoyed voting by mail this year. It gave my wife and I time to
    really sit down and research some of the more obscure ballot issues and look up the histories of some of the down ballot candidates that we
    weren't as familiar with.

    While election procedures can always be improved upon, and we should shift some money from building tanks to election issues, I think I have
    made my last visit to in person voting places - by mail was just a much better experience.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Personally, I am glad our fighting men are surrounded by all that armor.
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    It's silly to think you can promote democracy overseas if you have 50% of Trump supporters sitting at home ready to burn down the country because
    they don't trust the voting system.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't promote democracy overseas. I believe we should pull back and get our troops out of all overseas locations.
     
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    The democrats: "you don't need to be able to verify mail-in ballot signatures, you need to trust our (law breaking) system which made sure you can't verify a single one of them".
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet all the other cases in all the other courts have been rejected for what is essentially a complete lack of evidence. Trump lost. Resoundingly so. The majority recognizes him for the corrupt crank he is. Deal with it.
     
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    It's funny - you don't trust mail-in ballots because you can't verify the voter - but you completely trust strangers on the internet who claim
    millions of fake votes made it into the system ... and half of those are foreign trolls who sole purposes is to get YOU to have doubts
    about the American system.

    Bless your heart, dude.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You, and those of like mind, are a clear and present danger to the country.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can disregard strangers on the internet. However, when someone casts a fraudulent vote, it affects all of us.
     
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    Our safe and verifiable voting system has been subverted in the last minute and illegally changed to make sure that mail-in votes can't possibly be verified. Clearly you are not disputing this, cause you can't. I don't need internet strangers and foreign trolls to draw the absolutely unavoidable conclusions that at the very least we don't have the winner of this election cause we can't verify who got more legal votes. We absolutely can not.

    Which makes Biden absolutely illegitimate president.
     
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    Sure, dude. Cool story.

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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    And that's the official Pravda argument.
     
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    Aha, your admission of inability to "explain"/justify illegal manipulation of election laws to commit election fraud and make verification of election result impossible is noted. I accept your surrender.
     
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    Hope you didn't hurt yourself pulling that out of your ass.
     
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    Incorrect. Republicans have set the stage for how voting and elections will go in the future with their baseless claims of a “stolen election”. I know, I know....you have a “mountain of evidence”. Just curious when you’re going to present this “mountain of evidence”. I mean...what the f are you waiting for?
     
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    All true, but unfortunately for the country it is a long row to hoe. It's like we're on our own 5-yard line with no time outs, 2min, 30sec. to go, and behind by six.
     
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    Accurate analogy, I just don't know where it goes from here. It turns out Thomas and Alito thought the suit had standing. I can't understand how Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Coney Barrett could walk away from something that is threatening the survival of the Republic. I think we know how the liberal justices would have acted if this whole thing were the other way around and the Republicans were accused of election fraud. I just don't get it, Mountains of evidence, both circumstantial and material and still coming in but no serious interest from the DOJ or the FBI and the SCOTUS didn't see any constitutional problems??? When the evidence can no longer be denied what then? Should we just say, Oh Well. what's done is done??
     
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    My part of Californication voted 2-1 for Trump over Biden.
     
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    That and a $1.59 will get you a cup of coffee.
     
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    My opinion is the justices, especially Roberts, are more concerned with their legacy than the republic, though Barrett surprised me, and they see this case as a no-win for them. I can see the arguments from both sides over standing, but it should not be that hard to accept Texas' suit on the basis that fraudulent voting and choosing electors by other states in essence disenfranchises Texas voters and causes harm to Texas. And even though some state actions are near open and shut it probably looked to the justices as a large s**tpile of work that would give them a ton of grief no matter how they would have ruled.

    Trump and company are going to run with Texas' solid and substantial arguments but that cannot go directly to SCOTUS but has to wind its way through the federal courts, which is a long row to hoe with not much time.

    The terrible unfortunate result is SCOTUS may have opened the door to institutionalizing fraudulent elections. That would be the end of true democracy.
     
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