Why so many Americans believe there was an election fraud?

Bet that was real tough to find! Didn't see any pundits doing that like in 2016. Look at the behavior of the "butch" on MSNBC for instance! We're still in the fight and always will be!

 

PLEASE No,

Don't even suggest that

 

Signature match is scary as it's more an art than science, meaning valid signatures could be invalidated

I have for years said all absentee ballots should have to be notarized by a notary public, maybe something we can do in future elections

Republican were against this in the past as most absentee ballots were republican ballots, maybe now they will support me on this

it's sad people change their views based on if it benefits their side or not, that should not be how we decide these things

 

one thing that just occurred to me, if someone pretended to be a notary public to try to cheat voters of their vote, that should not happen, the votes should still be counted, the fake notary public should get lwop in prison though

 

Took all of 30 seconds. LOL

The fight is over. Your boy got his ass whooped by Ole Joe.

 

I do accept reality, just not yours.

 

Not to my satisfaction. investigations conducted by the people who committed the fraud has no meaning to me.

 

Again, I gave you a list of federal agencies that investigated this. That is reality. There are not different realities. Only one. And in reality, there was no fraud that could have affected this election, as every single investigative body and every single court that has heard an election suit has shown you. That is reality. Biden is your president. That is reality.

 

your satisfaction has no affect on reality, or what I provided you.

Republican secretaries of state, Republican governors, Republican appointed judges, Trumps DHS, Trumps DOJ, Trumps Attorney General committed fraud? Lol you guys have lost your minds.

 

What is the difference between crooked Republican politicians and crooked Democrat politicians?

 

So far, not a single public hearing public hearing with full due process.
Tells you everything you need to know - the election was rigged.

 

How many of those who just got elected or reelected think they won because of voter fraud?????

 

And what you provided has no effect on my satisfaction. There hasn't even been time to conduct a meaningful investigation. Let's see the reports of what precisely they did to achieve whatever opinions they formed.

[/quote]Republican secretaries of state, Republican governors, Republican appointed judges, Trumps DHS, Trumps DOJ, Trumps Attorney General committed fraud? Lol you guys have lost your minds.[/QUOTE]

All Trump's attorney general said was he hadn't seen any evidence. He investigated nothing. Governors? That's a chuckle. The fraud simply has not been investigated. It can't have been.

I understand your hatred of the potential fraud. I can assure you I hate it. I can't prove anything and neither can you. I've seen credible evidence of fraud affecting more than a million votes. Perhaps it is all nonsense? Maybe but there is a lot of smoke out there. Is it enough to affect the results? Nobody knows and nobody can find out. The tabulations and the ballots are nowhere near each other. If the election was legit then there wouldn't be so much smoke. If it was defrauded, we can't do anything about it. All we can do is move on and perhaps find a better way to run elections.

Personally I don't vote for personal reasons and I have no stake in who the president is. I don't really care that there was fraud in the election. There is fraud to some degree in every election. I just think it should be investigated properly but I am dead positive that won't happen.

 

None. So what?

 

How many of those who were just elected or reelecting think that their win was because of voter fraud or cheating?????? I BET IT IS FEW IF ANY !!!!

 

what is the difference between batshit crazy and debunked conspiracy theories, and reality?

 

demonstrably false.

this is also demonstrably false.

 

nobody at all gives two shits if you are satisfied. Reality doesn't change because you aren't satisfied. I've given you a list of numerous federal and state agencies that have investigated, and found no fraud. I've given you a list of courts (over 60) many of which led by republican appointed judges, including 3 supreme court justices nominated by trump, that all showed you there was no fraud.

 

Another empty reply. In fact, so far, not a single public hearing with full due process has been held to investigate the integrity of this election. Where are Schiff/Nadler when we need them - right?

 

So far, not a single public hearing public hearing with full due process to debunk any of the charges of election fraud made by the Trump team. What does that tell you?

 

Reality: The DP rigs elections. You must have noticed. This is not the first time.

 

It tells me that unsubstantiated accusations, rumors, misinterpretations, and speculations are not admissible in court - and for good reason.

If there was a credible case for fraud out there, why do you suppose Trump's attorneys haven't actually made the case?

Given the fact that you're making an assertion without evidence, this sounds like conspiracy theory nonsense. But feel free to make the case with credible evidence.

What do you make of the fact that in his phone call on Saturday, Trump brought up a series of allegations that have been previously examined and shown to be false? A very obvious one is his making claims about the Dominion voting machines. Is Trump truly unaware that the HAND recount showed that the machine counts were quite accurate?

 

Unfortunately I am not young, but I have a long life experience, I lived in a communist country too. I learned not to trust ANY government and any political movement. The question what is the best way to find the truth. IMHO the best way to find the truth is to allow courts to decide what is and what isn't the evidence.
If a court decides that there is no evidence - for me it is enough, unless I followed the court procedure and can find a flaw in the court procedure. For me President Trump can screams "bloody fraud, Brad_Raffensperger, all I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state" - I am not impressed.

 

Some of our judges are corrupted, in the dictatorship they are corrupted even more, but our judges don't risk their life if they make a ruling against the dictator wish.

 

No! You are FORTUNATE to be old (as am I). The unfortunate ones didn't make it.