Capitol is on lockdown as pro-Trump demonstrators try to break into the building

The moment the Democrats are capturing the government is the moment the first unarmed political opposition was just outright gunned down.

Resist, oppose - has been replaced with "submit or be executed."

Welcome to the new corporate-fascist America.

 

Frankly, I think there's a chance it was just a negligent discharge. There were pictures of multiple Capitol police officers pointing their firearms at windows, fingers on the trigger, in at least one case with a club in the other hand. That's a recipe for a sympathetic contraction, and a negligent discharge:

https://www.police1.com/archive/art...s-the-finger-obey-the-brain-h5z2h6XBiLr9Ie5j/

 

You are wrong.
I am suggesting Proud Boys is a safe space for gay men in a hostile environment.

 

https://funker530.com/video/the-moment-capitol-police-shot-and-killed-ashli-babbitt/

She tried to jump through the window and they shot her at point blank range.

Don't think it was negligent.

Also, if his finger was on the trigger prior to the shot, then he ****ed up already.

 

A mob of Democratic protesters overran and completely occupied the Wisconsin state capital - Democratic government workers solely protesting for pure personal greed to get a pay raise they furiously demanded they were entitled to. Nothing done.

An unarmed female military veteran protesting - by the same tactic of trying to occupy a capital building - for the purely unselfish reason of to trying to defend democracy as she saw it was summarily shot to death for the purpose of shooting her to death.

It's pretty clear now who are the Nazi brown shirts and who are to be their victims in the USA, isn't it?

 

Unarmed Political Opposition.
That's so cute.
Like they were a group of Mahatma Gandhi's.
Awwww diddums.

 

Like the night they overtook the police precinct and burned it to the ground? How many were killed that night?

Or how about when they claimed six city blocks that became, per capita, the most dangerous place on the planet, and prevented emergency services from reaching gunshot victims? How many were shot then (by cops I mean, they couldn't keep themselves from shooting each other)?

How many were shot by police after months of attacking the federal building in Portland, even shooting CSOs in the process?

Looking at these events in a vacuum, the DC rioters were treated harshly, comparatively speaking.

 

There is no indication she was armed. None. Have any legal justification under law you can cite? If so, cite it.

But your comparison is accurate. She died a hero's death, just like unarmed Indian protesters gunned down by the British did.

She is as much a hero as anyone who died in the American Revolution - but traitors to power who should be executed in your opinion.

She was a hero of democracy. I wish more people would give the true meaning to her summary execution.

 

The person who at the meeting, who I know to be factual.

 

That's easily possible, and if that's the case there should still be charges.

 

In some cases that may be true. Then again, opening gates for them and taking selfies with them doesn't sound too harsh.

 

I agree with you on this, but there are lots of pictures of exactly that happening. Take this one, for example:


Those two guys on the left pretty clearly have their fingers resting on their triggers. It's an indication of poor training, IMHO.

 

Only if you assume it was an accidental discharge. Do you have any proof on that? Has ANYONE - ever - successfully defended themselves of manslaughter or murder when they pointed a gun at someone with their hand on the trigger with "it was an accident?" Ever? Anywhere? If an reckless accident? The laws rather clear on that. Reckless error with a deadly weapon pointed at someone? It's quite clear what crime that is. Minimally it's manslaughter.

 

So you know someone who was at an Antifa meeting, whom you "know to be factual." Is this person an Antifa member?

 

Snopes = fake.

Reuters = normally reliable.

Politifact = Not that much more believable than Snopes.

None the less I know the guy who sent it to me and I also wonder if SFL which was formed in late 2019 copied it thinking, it was real.

From the description I was given is they are a bunch of seeming normal people, mostly male and white who have had it with the way the country is going under Trump.

They are loosely organized so, it's not like they could have sent a copy to legal to get a determination, one thing I did discover which is good they at the meeting they spent a majority of time arguing amongst themselves when it comes as a path to follow.

 

No, I don't, and as I said, I think it's a possibility, but it's also certainly possible that it was deliberate. And whether it was deliberate or accidental, I still think it needs to be thoroughly scrutinized. I don't know enough details yet, but my initial reaction is to lean towards the conclusion that shooting an unarmed protester who wasn't acting violently or directly threatening serious bodily harm to someone is probably NOT justified, regardless of whether the shooting was deliberate or negligent.

 

Actually for the USSS, that's the way they are trained to aim at a threat.

Finger on the trigger guard is a LEO thing where getting a LEO killed is less versus criminal expensive for the department, it's also a excellent way to get off your sight picture.

The FEDs went through a lot of retraining after the Miami Massacre and many broke away from the finger on the trigger guard.

 

It all depends upon the rules of engagement they are working under, it very well could be breaking into the chamber is grounds to shoot anyone trying.

Also keep in mind the firearms those agents are deploying are Glock 19 Gen5 TLR7, those firearms unlike single action firearms, have a trigger system designed to prevent AD's, 5+ pounds. The trigger has a long pull on the first shot, the follow up shots are like a standard SA.

 

Nope, with the way the trigger safety on a Glock is designed, that is not an unsafe practice.

 

Talk to the only person to do that. I do not believe those heavy doors were damaged.

 

Working on it.

 

So lesson learned from the woman's death is white lives do not matter.

 

It seems you don’t believe in castle doctrine.
I’d like to hear the full story on how she was shot. It is too early to rule out anything. This could be a case of self defence or a completely justified police shooting.

 

You mean those protestors that walked in the open doors ? Those "protestors" ? The ones who stayed in the public areas deemed by security, Those protestors ?

She was breaking in thru a window into a secured part of the capital.

Whatever helps you sleep at night my friend

 

I suppose George Floyd tossed away his life, Breonna Taylor tossed away her life too. She did not toss away her life, some rogue cop shot a Veteran of the Air Force, a Businesswoman to death. Not one peep of mourning from any of our local Democrats. She seemed to me to be a fine citizen.

When riots broke out over Gore losing the election, the media acted as if it was justified.

They hate Trump so much they justify a woman steeped in Air Force intelligence being shot.

I have read the lefts reports in their media.