Lawyer of Arizona man wearing horns during U.S. Capitol riots asking President Trump for pardon

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  1. bx4

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    If he’s charged with a felony he could also be charged with two counts of murder. The cop and the woman who got shot.
     
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    This is what Trump fears the most. His financial problems loom as well, but his supporters will end up paying for a chunk. Imagine that. Trump cuts their taxes by $40 a week and charges them $50 a week for doing so. The Trump Tax. Available today at a GoFundMe near you.

    Anyway, yes, Trump is about to become legally exposed. As to these horned QAnon freaks; they'll lead us to somebody, and who knows, maybe to Trump himself.
     
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    That would be an overly broad interpretation, I believe. Here are the two felony counts.

    Count One, a felony in violation of 18 Case 2:21-mj-05000-DMF Document 5 Filed 01/14/21 Page 1 of 18

    U.S.C. § 231(a)(3), alleges that Chansley “committed and attempted to commit an act to obstruct, impede, and interfere with a law enforcement officer lawfully engaged in the lawful performance of his official duties incident to and during the commission of a civil disorder, and the civil disorder obstructed, delayed, or adversely affected the conduct and performance of a federally protected function.” (Att. A at 1-2.) Count Two, also a felony, alleges that Chansley “attempted to, and did corruptly obstruct, influence, and impede an official proceeding, that is, a proceeding before Congress, by committing an act of civil disorder, and threatening Congressional officials, and unlawfully remaining in a restricted building without lawful authority, and engaging in disorderly and disruptive conduct,” in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1512(c)(2). (Att. A at 2.)

    He was denied bail yesterday.

    'QAnon Shaman' Jacob Chansley, who was arrested after storming the Capitol in a fur headdress and horns, has been denied bail (msn.com)

    Chansley was arrested in Arizona on Monday and indicted on six federal charges, including two felony charges of civil disorder and obstruction of an official proceeding, and could face 25 years or more in prison if convicted.

     
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    Keeping digging your heels in, it will be that much sweeter when Trump is brought to justice. :)
     
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    I provided a link that makes it clear the charges of insurrection and terrorism may be applied.

    My compliments on your so called patriotism. I also haven't forgotten about your support of trump who put Putin above USA intelligence agencies twice.
     
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    It would be great if enough of the terrorists do start turning on the rat.
     
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    When did Trump send him the "go to the Capital and storm the building and engage in insurrection" message?

    Here are some of the ones Harris was raising money and bailing out of jail and telling them they must continue

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    When do the Articles of Impeachment get filed against her?
     
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    How far off the edge are you going to go with your specious nonsense?
     
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    For a long time time now.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    You want to try and tell us these are pictures of new inductees of the club for growth!
     
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    He is also eating organic meals in prison on judge's orders. I suspect they didn't let him take the horns into his cell... Pity, he's probably gonna need them. But his mum says he's just the sweetest boy! I'm sure she misses tucking him in at night.
     
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    There were those who committed murder but one needs to,proove that QANNON Iman or Shaman was directly part of the murder or at least a direct contributor of murder.
     
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    This "Trump invited them to do it" is the latest group think of lawyers defending the rioters. If Trump does it, he is an idiot as he would be acknowledging he invited them to do it. They are trying to trick Trump into giving up his impeachment defense that he didn't encourage anybody to raid the capitol building.
     
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    I'm anti-Trump, but that is an idiotic defense. They are adults, should know wrong from right and have no valid defense.
     
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    That’s not my understanding of the felony murder rule.
    If A and B commit a felony together and during the course of the felony the police show up and kill B as a justifiable shooting, A can be charged with the murder of B. But that may be limited to specific felonies so I’m not entirely sure if it applies in this case.
     
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    Who's the idiot who says this guy is a terrorist?
    Probably.
    Would you be satisfied with a hefty fine?
     
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    That is the job of lawyers: Creating and nurturing "shadow of a doubt" - and that is exactly what you will want your lawyer to do for you when the time comes.
     
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    Most crimes are you did it or you didn't. When they have you on video doing it, you did it.
     
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    I guess jury nullification is the only wrench in their toolbox at this point.
     
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    Crimes are NEVER "you did it or you didn't" in a court of law. Whether you did the crime or not has nothing to do with being "guilty" or "not-guilty". Never has, never will.
     
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    True, but juries are required to weigh the evidence. The evidence is on video, and much of the world saw it live. "Guilty" seems to be the outcome that will prevail.
     
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    Evidence is seldom clear-cut and anyway, it is the job of lawyers to explain away whatever evidence there might be.
    Could be.
    You never know for sure.
     
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    I understand the Passion of those who stormed the Capitol and got caught up in the Moment, but maybe they should have taken a moment and thought about ANTIFA who's members cloak themselves to avoid Identification. A lot of Anti Maskers could have saved themselves a TON of Headache, had they not been so Stupid, Masked up and not been so easy to identify.
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    TRUMPTARDS need to Smarten up and not participate in a Super Spreader event
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    I think it's pretty certain. Video IS damning. More comes out each day, and none of it is exculpatory for anyone.
     
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    I have no time nor patience.
     
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