Nobody Has Been Charged For The Killing Of Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick—Here’s Why

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  1. Montoya

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    And these "people" don't even realize no one is even paying attention to them anymore.
     
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    Well you certainly are paying attention. I don't think you are "no one", you are a human with value. Please quit selling yourself short.
     
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    If anyone ever doubted that Trumpism is little more than a racist personality cult, just look at the excuses, rationalizations, and lies that the Trump mob is offering up to excuse their disgrace.

    In post after post, the priorities are clear.

    Since this is a personality cult, defending the fuhrer and making sure he gets away with it, is the top priority.

    Just as the Nazi’s made Hitler’s cell in Landsberg prison into a tourist stop, Trump nation adores its fuhrer. Especially when he is a criminal.
     
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    By next week, the MAGA people will be claiming that The Orange One himself bravely waded through the mob of Antifa Rioters at the Capitol and plucked the injured police officers away from the crowd but that later that night, Pelosi snuck into
    the police officer's home and finished the job ...

    WTF.
     
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    A "Trump extremists" who didn't even vote for Pres Trump and who has been extremely critical of him in the COVID forums. Yea, way to pre-judge because you heard one thing you didn't agree with.
     
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    Nope. Insurrection. A temporary barrier around the White House was overrun by tens of thousands of violent insurrectionists bent on removing Pres Trump from office under the explicit instruction of dozens of Congressional Democrats and one then-Vice Presidential candidate urging them to "fight like hell". Sorry Tom, if you set a standard you [Democrats] have to live by it.
     
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    You are attempting to equate the actions of the fringe to the entire Trump movement. Just like R's attempted to equate the fringe elements of BLM to the whole movement.

    I'm not on either side, and probably because of that, I very clearly see what is dividing the nation and it's exactly what you just did.

    Oh, as if that wasn't enough, you closed by calling all Trump supporters Nazis.
     
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    Sure thing pal.

    I know people who were in that mob, and who posted their activities on social media.

    They behaved exactly as I described. And, from other comments here and elsewhere, and from the reporting, that much of the MAGA mob that was. there either in, or outside the building followed the same pattern.

    Gleeful boasting and wide sharing.

    Followed by silence. (and a lot of attempts to delete posts).

    And then the rationalizations started. The Antifa rumors were started before the deaths were announced.

    And the back the blue flags in my area (which is Trump territory) all disappeared right after the riot.

    Oh, and since you’ve endorsed every one of these BS rationalizations, your protestations of independence ring hollow.

    As for my comparison to the way the Nazis behaved after. the Beer Hall Putsch, the analogy is creepily real, whether you like it or not.

    Trump’s authoritarian tendencies are well know and publicly recorded. When his mob stormed the CApitol he said and did nothing. When they put up a gallows for Mike Pence, Donald Trump was perfectly willing to see him hanging from it. A reward for four years of groveling before the king.

    That he was perfectly willing to egg on protestors and incite violence (a pattern with him, also well established and documented).

    I did not call all Trumps supporters Nazis. I noted the parallel between the Beer Hall Putsch and Jan 6th, and discussed the way they behaved after Hitler did his time in prison.

    Hawley’s punk act in Congress, with his feet on the desk reminded me off that. That pinkish disregard and disrespect for both the proceedings and of the insutution itself. That sort of behavior was widespread amongst Hitler’s clan from 193 on. As with this, this disssing and bullying was openly encouraged by the party, as it was by Trump for the last five years.

    I reviewed your posts. You routinely rationalize this behavior and try and parse facts in defense of Trump and his mob.

    Am I equating these events to the movement instead of a fringe? Not as far as I can see.

    Sorry pal, but my FB page lit of with all my Trumpster friends high fiving each other over the riot on the day of. Many of these people I know quite well. Of course, by 4 that afternoon, their feeds has gone quiet too!! And now all my “mainstream” Trump movement friends are peddling the same rationalization that Trumpsters here are doing.
     
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    And who woulda thunk, that the description of a basket of deplorables was spot on?!

    Now just own it!
     
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    Only a irrational democrat who is attempting to sate the hate of Trump a genuinely good president, searching the deepeest recesses of hate for dishonest rationalizations, would even pretend that rioting hasn't become routine since the rise of BLM and antifa terrorist organizations.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    Why did he need to be rushed to the hospital from the Capital. He went back to the police station, texted his brother that he was back there and he was fine. THEN he had a stroke according to what the police told the family.

    And that is NOT a small point is it.

    Really. You've read the medical examiners report?

    Because he knew the MSM and Dems and Left would have overshadowed the event and memorial in order to attack him for going.

    Then post the evidence which proves what you are saying.

    And your having to put words in people's mouth's and motivations which do not exist shows your blowing smoke.
     
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    We want find out as long as the DC police and medical examiner refuse to release the medical examiners report. And why is that, blunt force injury would be apparent on the simple viewing of the body. They want to carry on the false narrative that Trump was responsible and why the Dems, without any evidence included murder in their article of impeachment.

    And yes the unfortunately passing of this office HAS been turned into a partisan political issue, the Dems cited it in the political impeachment.
     
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    False it was attacked last May, the BLM/Antifa insurrectionist violated the perimeter at one point, the Preisdent and his family had to be moved to the secured quarters and over 60 law enforcement were injured fighting them back. So let's charge all the Democrats who were telling them to fight fight fight with inciting an insurrection.


    Trump took shelter in a White House bunker as protests raged
    PUBLISHED MON, JUN 1 20205:21 AM EDTUPDATED MON, JUN 1 20207:40 AM EDT
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/01/trump-took-shelter-in-a-white-house-bunker-as-protests-raged.html
     
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    By next week your hyperbolic rants will probably increase ten fold as Trump is acquitted and the Dems walk away with egg on their faces once again. Too bad this isn't a court of law because the judge would be charging the prosecution with evidence manipulation, omittance of exculpatory evidence, falsifying evidence and violations of the rights of the defendant in a contempt charge and a criminal referral.
     
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    I just want the TRUTH, you should try it. No one was killed by any rioters as opposed to in BLM/Antifa anarchy and insurrection.
     
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    Your posts here indicate otherwise. Just personal observation
    Slapping Independent with what you post and defend just lets people be aware of the disconnect between what people are and what they believe they are.

    If I shoot you in the face and you die of a heart attack later in the hospital caused by the aforementioned trauma, did I kill you or did no one?
     
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    No one knows if he was, the medical examiner and police refuse to release the ME findings and the police were using pepper spray. He went back to the station and even texted his brother to not worry he was just fine, then he had a stroke according to what the police told the family.

    So how is Trump responsible for a MURDER as is charged in the Article of Impeachment. THAT alone should be grounds for an acquittal vote it's a false document.
     
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    He wasn't shot in the face, he had no blunt force injury and he returned to the station texting his brother he was there and he was fine and he later suffered a stroke. Now explain how Trump is responsible for a murder or where a murder was committed.

    If the police tell a suspect to stop and that suspect instead runs and leads them on a foot chase and the persons collapses with a heart attack or stroke did the police murder him? Are they responsible for his death?
     
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    So you must see my anti Trump posts through the years. Why am I defending him? Because I detect deceit from those in power NOW on this issue. That's my motivation. I detect deceit and I go after the government, just like last time I encountered you, incidentally about another "protest", that in hindsight was another government lie obviously meant to conceal the beginnings of the ISIS movement before the election.
     
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    Bear spray doesn't harm humans (or bears for that matter). That's the charm of it. When we lived in AK, we carried it all the time.

     
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    You didn’t answer the question who is at fault in my scenario?

    The context is that if rioters caused the issue then they are responsible, whether it is from hitting him or spraying him. I would even argue if it was a physical condition caused by the event — like a stroke or heart attack — they would be the cause.
     
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    Here's an updated article

    SNIP
    One leading theory that investigators are considering is that the suspects sprayed an irritant, perhaps bear spray, that caused Sicknick to suffer a fatal reaction, the official said and CNN has previously reported.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/10/politics/brian-sicknick-investigation/index.html

    That's homicide, but probably not murder if there wasn't intent by using a generally non-fatal irritant...
     
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    Gee i wonder who has been spraying that in riots all across the country... Hmmm....
     
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    Is it their call? I gather that different states have different rules and laws regarding release of that data and it would generally take a specific ruling by a coroner or a judge to go against the standard rule. You'd have to establish what the specific rules are in these circumstances and exactly who's decision it would be to do something different before you start asking why.

    Possibly. You've not done anything to support that hypothesis though.

    I was talking in general terms about (apparent) misinformation appearing in the media, especially when attributed to unnamed sources. That happens all the time for all sorts of different reasons and motives. We don't know which applied in this specific example.
     
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    Have any sprays been investigated as a cause of death??

    If not, I would recommend your point is ****....
     

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