US service member injured in rocket attack in Iraq

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Should I Stay or Should I Go

  1. If I Stay there will be Trouble (GO)

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  2. If I Go it will be double (Stay)

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/15/politics/erbil-rocket-attack/index.html

    Kind of reminds me of the Haunted house Horror movie -- where from downstairs in this creepy place a voice is heard "Get Out" ..

    And of course what do the actors in the movie do ? -- Into the basement they go ..

    This was a targeted attack .. A US occupied area .. some small group claiming responsibility - wanting the US out of Iraq .. given as the justification .. so rather than from the basement .. this one in the form of a note "Get Out"

    Who this group was affiliated to matters not - Al Qaeda/IS , Iran , or some partially "affiliated" band of upstarts .. one of hundreds in the region ..sharing the common dream .. "Get Out"

    So strong is this voice in Iraq - their Parliament passed a bill some time ago .. just before Covid - if memory serves. "Get Out"

    and now that Covid is passing and things starting to get back to normal - the call rings out anew .. "Get Out"

    So yes .. we have lost the ME. Russia/China will be rebuilding Syria/Iran/Iraq. . and The EU .. don't forget them .. now China's biggest trading Partner and/or vice versa

    US corps will be on the sidelines watching .. Oman - Qatar are favorable towards Iran .. playing both sides of the fence while Turkey - is unfavorable to Iran .. but plays on both sides of another fence .. Russia/China ... so they are no great allies.

    Sure we have El Saud ..Good ol Brother El Saud .. who we were allied with in 2 rather nasty wars last decade .. Biden-Obama-El Saudo ... arm in arm .. with Al Qaeda and the Islamic State as our Proxy forces .. our weapons of war. War Crimes/ Crimes against humanity - that kind of thing .. the stuff we are famous for..

    which is why in the ME .. we should perhaps "Get Out"
    cause this has been nothing but a horror movie of our own creation ... for which we paid 10 Trillion dollars.

    How dumb and dumber is that ?
     
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    Oh Yeah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You knew this was going to happen as soon as Biden was elected. All the bad actors are going to flex their muscle to see what reaction the USA will take. I'm sure all the arms dealers are rubbing their hands with glee as they would like nothing better than to foment another conflict in which the "Merchants of Death" can sell their weapons of destruction on one side and defensive weapons on the other side.
     
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    Biden should retaliate by sending Iran another plane full of cash.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ike warned about this in 1961.

    JFK died for this in 1963.
     
  5. notme

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    The US has a lot of targeted attacks, where all kinds of civilians die.
    Nobody in the US cares, because they droned a whole family of brown muslims.
    So they brought it all upon themselves when the unwanted get killed there.

    Really no point to cry fowl.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    bullocks .. they was muscles flexing well prior to Biden setting foot in office .. Iran sent how many ballistic missiles at our base - injuring quite a few - despite being warned - which is somewhat humorous -- not the injuries but that they were warned..
    and Trump stands back and does nothing .. were many rocket incidents while Carrot Top was in office - he and perhaps wisely - just wanted to avoid that place. .. certainly will not be a cessation under Sleepy Head. .

    This latest was not even Payback - which is coming - for the assassination of that civilian scientist - Stupid Stupid move by Israel ..similar on the dumb scale to taking out Soleimani. ..

    but in the greater grand scheme of things .. and theme of the OP .. we should have "Gotten Out" a long long time ago .. and never should have been there to begin with..

    We could has spent that 10 Trillion dollars on infrastructure, technology , ramping up our economy to compete in the 3rd millennium

    but ohhhhh . Noooo ... we want to play hide and seek with real guns in Iraq .. dealing with a problem we created -

    You got the "Arms dealers rubbing hands with glee" part right though. Holy Carpe Diem Obama was a massive bonanza . brought all that stuff left over from the war in Yugoslavia to Syria .. along with new stuff and shipments from every other arms dealer in the world .. Benghazi being one of them..

    Things were rather quiet under trump .. Wars winding down rather than up....

    Perhaps we will see some more war mongering under Biden.... Kind of think were pretty much done though .. no one left to attack of any significance .. Sans Iran of course .. but I don't think this is going to happen. maybe .

    What else is there ? Venezuela ? seems very unlikely .. Going to be tougher to justify the military industrial complex going forward methinks. Oh .. they will try .. Russia and Chinese are going to attack the homeland you see .. and we are under constant threat .. Not.
     
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    Wasn't Iran though .. and we have not been retaliating to the things Iran does do .. Carrot Top sat by and watch as Iran conducted a rather successful missile test on one of our bases.. and on our good buddy El Saud.

    That plane full of cash was nothing .. and it was there money. We spent 10 trillion of OUR money to play hide and seek with these militants in the middle east .. after creating the problem to begin with .. does that not count for nuttin ? Who were we sending all that cash to pray tell.
     
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    If it was a rocket attack, the rocket originated in Iran
     
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    Kind of the point of the OP :)
     
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    I'm tempted to say the Biden admin orchestrated this attack in order to justify building up troop strength in Iraq and by extension Afghanistan. You can forget about troop reductions with a Democrat in office.
     
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    how do we know this .. could it not have been a home made rocket like the one's the Hamas and Hezbollah use ?
     
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    It was reported to be 107 mm rockets. Iran manufacturers its own as knock-offs of China's version. 14 rockets coming in on the same target would not be suggestive of improvised launches propping them up on mounds of sand. I have also seen reports that two iranian built launchers have been recovered that were attached to exploded vehicles in the region.
     
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    I know when I was there all the rocket remains EOD gathered during crater analysis showed the rockets were manufactured in Iran. I doubt much has changed since then.
     
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    I heard this happened in the Kurd section of Iraq which might complicate things.
     
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    No American should shed another drop of blood in either Syria or Iraq.

    Let’s get out.
     
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    You're just so wrong. It is:
    No American should shed their blood and must get out.


    Because you know, them Americans are there to shed their blood.
     
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    Ahhh ... cool Thanks for that information - hadn't seen anything that detailed yet .

    Hmmm one thing here though .. we are talking "Iraq" here. so such rockets could have been from anywhere .. former Yugoslavia .. you name it .. Stuff from the war in Syria .. which of course spilled over into Iraq when part of Iraq became part of the Islamic State.

    Could have been US weapons for that matter - have to check the Inventory of the Islamic State .. Something like this would do the trick..

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    That is a really fancy soviet model .. A captured Russian one in the inventory of the Islamic State .. many smaller versions from any number of nations .. stuff that is much more high tech than the rockets used by the Palestinians..

    but could have been Iranian too .. lots of Iranian stuff on the market. Most folks have a smaller version of a sophisticated rocket technology in their basement in Iraq/Syria :) and Most of it was Supplied by the US and Partners - not "Iran" and Partners.

    If not in this case .. then in others - weapons that we supplied will be used against us...

    Fancy stuff like manpads - surface to air missiles perfect for taking out civilian airliners .. Notice the media doesn't mention Al Qaeda/IS in Iraq .. like those groups are not wanting the US "Out" .. and there are huge numbers of these in Iraq .. many who assimilated back after fighting in the War in Syria ... ..

    Anyway - overall point - we need to "Get Out" of there .. What is the purpose... Try to maintain what hegemony we have left in the ME ? ?

    And how has that been going so far - what is our Return on Investment .. 10 Trillion since 911...

    Oh .. and how is that war on Terror going ? - Given we spent the majority of the Last Decade Allied with Al Qaeda - ISIS in not one but 2 wars... .. Arming .. supporting , supplying them .. arm in arm with Brother El Saud.. #1 state sponsor of Terrorist ideology on the planet by far. .
     
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    Perhaps you could explain the reasons for the dozens of missiles fired at US bases last couple of years?
     
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    They don't get any recognition unless they fire off a few of their bottle rockets ever so often. Harkens back to the days when Mohammad raided caravans in the desert. You have to make them fear you if you want to get paid.
     
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    Except you wrote ".....Biden admin orchestrated this attack in order to justify building up troop strength in Iraq and by extension Afghanistan" so did Trump do the same?
     
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    I wouldn't think the admin would need to - but who knows what goes on in that part of the world. .. so convoluted that we are still there.

    Not that the Pentagon is adverse to a few false flags - and weekly false narrative .. just probably not needed in this case. Especially after the these targeted assassination ...

    Nothing but more bad Karma this is. - Like swatting a hornets nest with a big stick .. and then expecting not to get stung ..
     
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    Americans are there to shed their blood for Israel.
     
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    Yes, we failed. But the answer to your question at this time would greatly differ from the answer given during any potential conflict with many of the countries you mentioned. In such a case, it would become obvious how stupid we were for allowing domestic politics, through the assistance of ideological media, to dictate military strategy.
     
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    The Global War Of Terror was brought on purpose, supported entirely by the staged events at WTC.

    That is, all that followed was NOT an accident, NOT a poor decision. All that followed was deliberate.
     

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