World’s ‘solar and wind capital’ freezing due to snow ‘blanketing millions’ of solar panels

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    I'm still waiting for my chance to plant palm trees in my back yard.
     
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    Yup and we can thank trump and republicans for this.
     
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    So what to think of all time records that date back 100 years? I often read we'll never reach those levels of cold again due to GW. Now you say we get extreme cold weather due to GW?
     
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    ~ Neither was I until that Forbes article came out. I believe Australia is also having "green" difficulty .
     
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    Our home is heated by nothing but heat pumps. Very cosy, much faster to respond than central heating. 750w input creates 2000w output.
    Smart.
     
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    The green difficulty is mainly a lag between renewable generation and the roll out of smart usage. But we have seen no power cuts or even requests to use less electricity.
     
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    how many homes and businesses? 68 million, good job I guess..
     
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    ~ Hopefully America will continue to lag behind with this ridiculous wind/solar fiasco. Eventually the entire world will learn the hard way and drop the experiment entirely.
     
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    LOL no.
     
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    OMGAWD! There are STILL such ignorant, ignorant, ignorant people who think "global warming" means it won't snow anymore...who have no idea how weather works..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.;. must be the Science Haters/Fearers Earth is Flat Club....
     
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    You know, what I haven't seen is the video from around Abilene TX and vicinity of the 10s of thousand of wind turbines actually running. The TX ERCOT said in an article in the Austin Statesmen yesterday that approximately 18k megawatts from wind and solar were off line. Which essentially reflects that most of central and north central wind farms aren't running. It's pretty simple to get video of all of those wind turbines and what operational state they are in. Wonder why the national media haven't run with wind turbines running.... oh wait... they lie for a living, so never mind... LOL
     
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    Perhaps people think this because folks, like manbearpig and "fliesonprivatejet" have told them ridiculous fantasies like it won't snow anymore for decades now. But you know, pollyanna still clings to the fantasy that the world is ending in 10 years... Details....

    Heres something. You failed the minute you didn't reframe back to the phrase "climate change". because if you only call if "global warming" events like this that have literally created thousands of new coldest high temp records will undermine your global warming schtick. Its folks like you who deny the actual science and data who are laughable.
     
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    I agree with you on that point! Clearly Texas energy fell for the same thing :(
     
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    The really funny thing here in TX is the makeup of hyper partisan democrats who run the ERCOT. They literally cannot overcome their own partisanship to just admit that wind production in the state is essentially offline, and will likely remain off line until it warms back up. Where I live, our average low temp for this time of year is around ~40F. We will be lucky if we have a high temp that gets above 29F today. I understand democrats don't understand science and physics, but as long as there is a potential for those turbines to ice over, they won't be running. We have some wind farms just west of our town. They haven't moved for about a week now. They shut down for the first of the ice storms. Each of those units represents about 4 megawatts of generation for a year. Not running for a week is about 2% of their total output for a year. It adds up. And because these things aren't running, NG production can't keep up with the losses, and heating of homes is competing with NG power, and we are now where we are. It just amazes me how disingenuous the media have been about this. TX actually is one of the leaders in wind. Folks just forgot that sometimes, wind doesn't blow, even in tx, and that ice always shuts you down. even in TX. and of course who would have ever thought you'd need de icing in tx?
     
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    I believe it was Gore who said our kids wouldn't know what snow is? And every summer when it gets hot, we hear from the GWer's, but yet when it's cold, we hear the opposite. You can't lose when you can blame the heat and cold on GW. It's a win-win!

    We hear the same thing with hurricane season, if it's busy, it's GW, if it's not busy, it's GW.
     
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    Why are you supprised hell look at how many guilible believe that the last election was stolen. That group can be easily convinced that the moon is made out of blue Cheeze and that the earth is flat.
     
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    I think it is a temporary fiasco. I believe the technology witll mature and improve. The real fiasco is having government involved in it. If they leave it to the market economy, things will work out the right way at the right time.
     
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    Wrong, but until you review the thread there's simply too much you don't know.
     
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    The decision not to weatherize was a business decision based on low probability of an event like this. Right or wrong I don't really care.
     
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    Yes, and . . . ?
     
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    The Day After Tomorrow: Renewables Fail Edition
    David Middleton
    Guest “The best laid plans of mice and men…” by David Middleton Note: I had originally titled this post, The Day After Tomorrow: ERCOT Fail Edition, and ERCOT did fail.…

    ". . . This remark is moronic:

    Eventually about one-third of the anticipated capacity went offline. This included a handful of freezing wind turbines, but the majority of the volume losses were due to coal and natural gas plants going offline.

    Eric Berger, Space City Weather
    “A handful of freezing wind turbines”? At least half of the wind generation capacity has been knocked offline since Sunday. It’s only a “handful” in the sense that wind power only accounts for 20-25% of Texas electricity generation. When you start with only two hands full of wind turbines and you lose one hand to frostbite, I suppose you’ve only lost a handful… [/SARC]

    “The majority of the volume losses were due to coal and natural gas plants going offline”? Well, no schist Sherlock. About 70% of ERCOT’s generating capacity is comprised of natural gas and coal-fired power plants… So, of course, the majority of the volume losses have been among natural gas power plants. However, coal-fired and nuclear power plants (all two of them) have been relatively unaffected.

    The fact is that almost all of the electricity currently being delivered to the ERCOT grid is coming from natural gas, coal-fired and nuclear power plants. . . . "
     
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